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Shay Guy



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:58 pm Reply with quote
Funny that y’all start with the long arm of Chainsaw Man’s influence, when CSM itself has declined so much in sales over the course of Part 2.

I wouldn’t call Blue Box is so much of a departure by being a “manga that focuses pretty overtly on romances”. Its tone is atypical for WSJ, but remember that this magazine has a romance tradition going back to Kimagure Orange Road, 40 years ago. They’ve never been the headliners — the likes of Video Girl Ai, Ichigo 100%, or even Nisekoi — but there’s usually been at least one running. (And we’ve also got Hima-Ten! now, which has had poor sales so far, but it could pull through.)

I gave Beat & Motion a chance, but it didn’t seem interested in moving away from the theming that I found so unpleasant in the beginning, so I dropped it after a few chapters. Green Green Greens had a similar issue, but with worse writing, so I was happy to drop it one chapter in.

One thing that interests me about Ichi the Witch is how uninteresting it is in using its premise for romantic or sexual tension like the likes of Infinite Stratos, Blade Dance of the Elementalers, Unlimited Fafnir, or arguably Chained Soldier do. Everyone’s shocked by the news of a boy witch, but the witches who don’t want him care more about the fact that he’s an untrained, feral nutcase. And the ones who welcome him are just super stoked about things like getting to stretch their clothing design skills to make an outfit for him that still says “witch”.

MHA and JJK ending made headlines of course, but it’s interesting that Jump’s about to lose a couple more long-runners. Mission: Yozakura Family is the oldest title in the magazine outside One Piece (and Hunter x Hunter if you count that), and it could well end in the very next chapter. Undead Unluck, the next-oldest title, is approaching its end too. So if Hunter x Hunter formally moves out, it’s entirely possible that One Piece’s ending could at last correct the imbalance that’s existed since 2016 — by once more making the longest-running title in Jump a gag manga, Me & Roboco.

It’s funny that Astro Royale didn’t get a mention — until Ichi the Witch came along, it held the title for “WSJ’s strongest debut on Manga Plus since Kagurabachi”. And it seems to have steadily shed readers ever since. Go figure. And now over in Jump+ there’s Drama Queen, which has gotten a lot of buzz, but it’s proven, uh… divisive.

About a year ago, someone made a neat tool for tracking viewership numbers on Manga Plus. Gives some good insights on how those numbers work, too -- like how every new series climbs up and up at first, peaks after five weeks, then plunges, suggesting the number is a total summing the previous five weeks. Measuring by those numbers, the current popularity rankings for WSJ titles among international readers would be something like:


  1. One Piece (by a lot)
  2. Hunter x Hunter
  3. Kagurabachi
  4. Sakamoto Days
  5. Ichi the Witch
  6. Blue Box
  7. Undead Unluck
  8. Mission: Yozakura Family
  9. Hima-Ten!
  10. Shinobi Undercover
  11. Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi
  12. Akane-banashi
  13. Syd Craft: Love Is a Mystery
  14. Astro Royale
  15. Kill Blue
  16. Nue's Exorcist
  17. Witch Watch
  18. The Elusive Samurai
  19. Hakutaku
  20. Super Psychic Policeman Chojo
  21. Me & Roboco


RuriDragon's biweekly nature makes it hard to compare to the others. It's got nowhere near the readership of Spy x Family or Kaiju No. 8, but it's doing a little better than the new sci-fi action series MAD -- another one with some real Fujimoto vibes.

I also looked up Oricon and Shoseki estimates for sales figures of the most recent volumes in Japan, adding the first three weeks together. By that metric, the popularity ranking (for series established enough to have volumes out, so no Ichi, since v1 just came out this week) is something like...


  1. One Piece
  2. Hunter x Hunter
  3. Blue Box
  4. Kagurabachi
  5. RuriDragon
  6. Sakamoto Days
  7. The Elusive Samurai
  8. Akane-banashi
  9. Witch Watch
  10. Undead Unluck
  11. Mission: Yozakura Family
  12. Nue's Exorcist
  13. Astro Royale
  14. Me & Roboco
  15. Kill Blue
  16. Hima-Ten!
  17. Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi
  18. Super Psychic Policeman Chojo


It's hard to compare apples to apples at the lower end, because the less popular ones drop off the Oricon chart after a week or two, or don't place at all. Everything from Kill Blue down here is purely from Shoseki estimates.
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kgw



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:23 am Reply with quote
Thank the gods (in no particular order or preference) you didn't look at the new hits of Jump+: Yattara, Asura's Judgement, Ryota spoiler[killed] his little brother or Drama Queen or you'd have to ask if it's time to leave Jump althogheter spoiler[(all consuming demon raising kids -like cattle, at first-, a kind kid sending absolute garbage of human beings to Hell, a cute little kid who is an unholy eldritch horror, and a story about killing and eating space aliens (no metaphore at all, no sir)].

Also, Wild Strawberry is better than "oh,a Fire Punch clone", No Gyaru ls in this class is cute, Girl meets rock! is Big In Japan, while Centuria is quite popular in not-Japan.

Oh, and Dogsred is a Young Jump series.
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Hal14



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:28 am Reply with quote
I'm a little lost when it comes to the magazine structuring. For instance, which shonen magazines are Centuria and Make the Excorcis fall in love published in?
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Brack



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:39 am Reply with quote
At this point Demon Slayer should be your reference point for a Shonen Jump hit, not dinosaurs like Bleach and Naruto. That's why things like Kagurabachi zip along when once they would have been unrushed. Series like Demon Slayer, Dr Stone, Promised Neverland and the like have proven you can get the job done in 5 years and not have to break your back for decades hunched over your drawing board working on the same series.
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tintor2



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:58 am Reply with quote
Gintama in particular had one of the longest and pointless final arcs.spoiler[ Sorachi put nearly every character used even in oneshot chapters into the final arc to make it look like he didn't forget anybody. The only one missing was Tama's antivirus. It was tiring as heck and it wasn't even part of the ending as they kept creating another story arc so long that Bandai Namco had to cancel the anime and make a movie dedicated to the final chapters like if it was Attack on Titan. The ending was basically GetBackers but GetBackers tried giving character arcs to member]

Jujutsu was good but the handling of Sukuna and Nobara was horrible. spoiler[The final villain literally lasted 6 volumes of fights and it wasn't even a good fight as Yuji just got stronger due some sort of strange heritage and never actually used his own technique or something. They kept using every single weakling from Kyoto against Sukuna rather than the strongest like Choso and Yuta. And we had flashbacks in every single chapter. Akutami should have ended the arc sooner rather than forcing Sukuna to look like a good character just because he is strong.]
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kgw



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:33 am Reply with quote
Hal14 wrote:
I'm a little lost when it comes to the magazine structuring. For instance, which shonen magazines are Centuria and Make the Excorcis fall in love published in?

All of them are Jump+ exclusive.

In the web you can sort them out
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DamianSalazar



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:14 am Reply with quote
Brack wrote:
At this point Demon Slayer should be your reference point for a Shonen Jump hit, not dinosaurs like Bleach and Naruto. That's why things like Kagurabachi zip along when once they would have been unrushed. Series like Demon Slayer, Dr Stone, Promised Neverland and the like have proven you can get the job done in 5 years and not have to break your back for decades hunched over your drawing board working on the same series.


That last sentence just disrespected the work of Jump mangakas who work on a biweekly/monthly basis.
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