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INTEREST: New Anime-Style Alien Fan Film By Animator Paul Johnson




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Gilarack



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:14 am Reply with quote
Paul Johnson is absolutely insane (in the best way possible) for animating all of this at, what looks like 24 frames per second, all on his own in only 6 years. Especially considering how much hand drawn, hyper detailed, 80s style shaded stuff is in this video. Hell, most actual 80s anime wasn't THIS detailed!
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Vee-Tee



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 3:32 am Reply with quote
Oh wow!

I remember his documentary on fansubs years ago Surprised
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Shay Guy



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:41 am Reply with quote
Oh hey, it's the guy who posted that screed back in '06 reducing the artistic quality of animation to "number of tones of shading". (And copied Toshio Okada's nickname.)

That was half my life ago, almost exactly. His answer to "why do people get into anime?" being specific art styles of the '80s is especially amusing given that anime fandom is soooo much bigger now, the median fan today probably couldn't name half the anime he gushes over, and that fan's idea of "cool-looking anime" is probably Ufotable, MAPPA, Wit Studio, or Trigger. Three of which hadn't even been founded when he wrote that comic/tutorial, and Ufotable hadn't released the first Garden of Sinners movie yet. (Kyoto Animation hadn't reached the visual heights of Hyouka or Violet Evergarden, but they were already making waves with Haruhi.) He doesn't even mention Ghibli in that post, or this one on DeviantArt, and in this forum thread he links from another DA post, he only mentions it at all in response to what someone else says -- because of course their movies don't fit into his narrative of what "objectively good animation" means.

I wonder if he's developed any respect for people who actually have to animate on a budget and schedule in the last decade and a half. Or for the breadth of artistic possibility in the medium. Or recognition that yes, what everyone was telling him was true and art actually is subjective. Or even any recognition that Disney characters aren't designed for screenshots, or even for Dezaki-esque still, impactful frames, but for movement that evokes life.
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Amritzer



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:59 pm Reply with quote
Happy for people who actually find this impressive.
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Vee-Tee



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:07 am Reply with quote
Amritzer wrote:
Happy for people who actually find this impressive.


What did he do, beside clearly pissing in your cornflakes? Confused
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Amritzer



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:13 am Reply with quote
Vee-Tee wrote:

What did he do, beside clearly pissing in your cornflakes? Confused
I just don't find this fan video of his to be anything special, that's all, even if it was made by one person over the period of 6 years (which is a lot of time, btw, for such a short content) - to make 20 minutes long material.

If this was made by a real studio, everyone would be asking WTF is this?
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Vee-Tee



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:55 am Reply with quote
Okay. Have you ever animated digitally before? It really does take a long time to get good at it, if you’re doing it the anime style way and not using the Maya/Toon Boom software rigs and models common in modern cartoons.
I’ve had a quick look through the video… it’s not as if he took six years to make a bouncing ball or walk cycle. It’s fine for an animation product done by a single person with presumably some help from others here and there.

I just find it a bit odd that the comments here have been so negative. The guy’s wheelhouse is clearly 80s and 90s anime, even if he is a bit obnoxious about it, and even if he rubbed people the wrong way nearly 20 years ago with a video essay (which looks like it’s since been deleted) about the annoying elements of the contemporary fansubbing culture back in the 2000s. Did he do something terribly I’m otherwise unaware of?
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Shay Guy



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 7:41 pm Reply with quote
Vee-Tee wrote:
Okay. Have you ever animated digitally before? It really does take a long time to get good at it, if you’re doing it the anime style way and not using the Maya/Toon Boom software rigs and models common in modern cartoons.
I’ve had a quick look through the video… it’s not as if he took six years to make a bouncing ball or walk cycle. It’s fine for an animation product done by a single person with presumably some help from others here and there.


"Fine" feels like damning with faint praise. Johnson isn't exactly new to Clip Studio Paint or whatever Japanese animators are using these days. He's been animating for like 20 years.

I haven't watched this animation, and I don't even remember anything he said about fansubbers back in the day. My sole problem with him is his myopic, closed-minded view of art and animation. I don't know if he's mellowed out on that since the 2000s; if he's shifted to more "this animation aesthetic has always been my favorite, even though it's fallen out of favor in the industry for reasons X, Y, and Z" and less "this aesthetic is what's objectively good, people just aren't doing it anymore because they're stupid, cheap, or lazy, and if someone says they like that other aesthetic better they're lying or blind", I'd be quite happy to hear it. I'm not a fan of artists who define "good art" as the art from their formative years and look down on anyone younger than them. (Mind you, the most celebrated anime creator ever has a lot of that going on, so what do I know?)
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:40 pm Reply with quote
The last time I saw anything of him, was when I was on his Patreon page, where he did give off a more diplomatic stance. I did try looking up the promo video, but I couldn't find it. I looked through his posts, and that seems to be where he is at now. It would be hard to get people to support you financially if you are constantly being aggressive, so anyone's guess if he has cooled off or just has a public face.

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Top Gun



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:09 pm Reply with quote
To play devil's advocate, who among us does not have some cringe-worthy posts buried on a forum or blog from almost 20 years ago? Lord knows I have my fair share. People grow up, and their opinions mature or mellow out. It seems a bit hasty to assume that he has the same exact views now.
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