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jroa
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Regarding the review for Roze episode 2...sure, we currently don't have much of a reason to care for the Sakuya/Sakura relationship as of now, but it's a start. They're still busy in the process of establishing the premise and defining where the drama is going to come from. Now that they've finished using this couple of episodes as an action-packed introduction, I hope things will slow down at least momentarily in order to let the characters breathe.
I'd expect the rest of the anime to fill in the details, sooner or later, whether it's going to happen through more interactions, more flashbacks or simply by getting to see their respective reactions to remaining apart. That way, it might mean more whenever we eventually circle back around to the two of them, presumably closer to the climax or resolution. Come to think of it...Lelouch and Suzaku also met right at the start of Code Geass and they even pretended that Suzaku had died for a fleeting minute in episode one. Which was only sad for Lelouch, not so much for anyone in the audience at that point. We only got to really know them over the course of a season (or two). Of course, Roze of the Recapture doesn't have luxury of 25 episodes, that's going to be a complicating factor. Having said that...I can readily agree with the review that the most interesting dynamic might well be the one between Roze and Ash, not Sakuya and Sakura, especially after the reveal at the end of the episode. It's very Code Geass-y and melodramatic in nature, yes, but also something that Lelouch himself never really tried to pull off with Suzaku (or, for that matter, Rolo). Even if it's for a good cause, that is clearly a form of manipulation without proper agreement nor legitimate consent. Usually, that tends to come with a price or at least with half a dozen unintended consequences.
Indeed. I wouldn't agree with him about SAO either, although I haven't read that article. He might potentially make a good case, for all I know, even if it doesn't convince me to change my mind.
Now that is putting a few words in my mouth. I may have overstated the point, guilty as charged, but it's just underlining a type of argument that I've never appreciated. |
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Hal14
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While I think these reviews can be almost over critical at times, I believe sequel/reboots need to do more to distinguish themselves from their predecessors very early on rather than just be a reminder. Since the first three episodes were one 'movie' we probably won't see anything that really sets this apart from the originial till ep 4
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Top Gun
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I know absolutely nothing about this sequel/spinoff/thing, but I had to drop in and say thanks for giving me a big laugh over the thumbnail choice.
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jr240483
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that scenario with sakuya brainwashing ash has rollo part two written all over it! will not surprised if he pulls a rollo and kills the body double in the end though there are far too many questions than answers. specifically how did she even get geass in the first place!? i assume this took place years after the movie! but for britania to fall this far because of this is confusing as hell considering the first ep pins the blame on lelouch for the fall of the country and not nunally! |
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tintor2
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Never paid attention but Roze might one of the first crossdressers protagonists in mecha history. I mean Turn A Gundam had Loran but it felt played for laughs while Roze does it all the time probably to hide her status and connections
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John the Dark Lord
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What the narrator actually said at the start of the first episode is that Britannia fell WITH Lelouch's death. Nunnally (and Schneizel) picked the pieces afterwards. Neo Britannia is just one faction of the old empire that refused to give up, but the narration was very clear that most of the countries born once the empire fell apart are doing fine. |
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InfiniteNothingness
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Jumpjng off of this...
Yeah, I'm modestly less negative on this than Moore, and I've... at most been pretty whelmed. It's not a very exciting show, and it has already felt as if it was truncating and watering down what were the various moving parts controlled by a medley of big personalities even down to the relative randos. Arnold, really, is not terribly different IMO from any other sucky noble I might see nowadays; he's just a guy, as opposed to a sucky super-racist Code Geass guy. I don't even necessarily mind the prison break sequence taking an entire episode -- assuming this really will just be a single season show and not drop a sequel announcement by the end -- as much as I do how deeply empty and just sort of there, it was. A large setpiece, functional for serviceable fights (which I have enjoyed), but otherwise far more barren than it would let on. It's been years since I saw the OG in full and I'm not interested in comparing to the old one overly much. Beyond thinking most takes wouldn't compare anyway and that it was such a singular piece of work, this doesn't seem interested in being nuGeass anyway; that's not even an insult as much as I think it'd be the staff setting themselves up for failure, as opposed to going at it from a different angle. With the most convenient example for me being that the not-Suzaku, if holding that comparison, is already a partner from the outset as opposed to everything going on with that deeply troubled young man. Inspired/Similar, just about ending there. Or heck, Sakuya's determination from the outset in contrast to the build-up experienced with Lelouch. (I took a very quick glance looking to see if there was an interview I might find that would prove me wrong, and I didn't see anything, though if I do see more on that front then that is that.) I also went back and watched episode one of the original again while typing this. It's honestly impressive the dense information that's conveyed so efficiently, and how it's complemented by propulsively sharp animation that gives you just enough time to latch onto what's going on. Yet, it also moves at a snappy enough pace that "Upstart young Britannian student trounces a king in chess, also we learn incidentally that he's great at strategy games in general" to "Said kid gets roped in with the downtrodden rebellious Japanese faction," to "He then gets powers on the level of a God as he comes to term with his contempt of the world and himself for the negligent lies and self-absorbed focus on his own life, and is now seeking to bring power to his words" is all done pretty convincingly! To say nothing of his and Suzaku's origin stories, the diverging paths they took out of the same hardships, and learning how they tick with just a few scenes. And that wasn't even my favorite! What I actually liked the most was Lloyd talking circles around General Bartley and assistant Cécile while he's quick enough with the cold read to figure out what's going on, before deflecting his assessment to the latter's intuition in characteristically careless fashion as we learn pretty quickly what he's all about. Also, he's really, really cute. It's compelling stuff, and he's only one of several, several named, important, or both, characters that make up the many moving parts. It all really proves how much and how well you can convey a tremendous amount of plot and character details from the get go. And if the OG's debut episode is a stuffed pancake with variousl flavorful fillings, this show's first was... a familiar, light breakfast waffle, I suppose? And like, I really want to like Recapture, more than I do and in general. I'm taking note of every little thing that does spark serious enthusiasm, like the pretty ruthless dynamic we know exists between Sakuya and Ash. I don't have much though, even if I'll be seeing this through to the end because, really, I do love Code Geass at the end of the day. There just is not much there to me yet, unfortunately. |
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jr240483
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which kinda makes the point. it was highly unlikely the old empire would follow a girl in a wheelchair as their empress, surprised corneila didn't take the reigns as empress after the events of lelough the resurection movie knowing full well that such a scenario concerning the old faction would do this! |
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MFrontier
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I really wonder if they have enough episodes to do a proper arc of a twisted romance arc where the female lead is posing as the brother of the man who (purportedly) killed her father and now he's in love with her female form under an assumed identity. So far Sakuya doesn't seem to be taking Ash's feelings seriously, and probably still plans to kill him, but will that stay that way?
It's got to be surreal for Sakuya to be managing her people and trying to maintain her image all the while posing as a Brittanian. Granted she is actually Half-Britannian so that adds another layer to it. Now I'm really curious about Sherry. Just throw out the eldest sister of the Brittanian royal line who no one has ever talked about, make her Sakuya's mother, and then only confirm that she helped protect the Japanese by creating the 11th district because there were no better options. What happened to her? Was she killed like Sakuya's mother? RIP Callis. We barely knew ye. I guess he was also related to Sakuya? Natalia seemed to care enough about him (because he was literally a child). Haruka is definitely the Kallen. Most promising Japanese pilot, gets the ace Knightmare, gets the most butt shots... Who knew it was that simple to just...throw in another FLEIJA, though it provides an excuse to reintroduce Nina and show how much she's changed. |
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Silver Kirin
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The last couple of episodes were pretty good, but I started to realized that perhaps I should've watched the compilation movies first before jumping into Rozé, because there's a couple of details I think I missed, even though I watched Re;surrection a few years ago. It was cute seeing the interaction between Ash and Sakuya, though the Seven Shining Stars aren't very interesting as characters, I still have some questions how Neo Britannia amassed that much power and them using a new Damocles and FLEIJA felt like the Empire using the Death Star II, just recycling old plans. Still, I wanna know Norland's backstory, he's obviously a Char clone, but I've seen some wild theories about his identity.
In regards to Lelouch, or L.L., and C.C.'s cameo, me and other Neutral Spanish-speaking fans finally heard them talking in our language and it was a bit anti-climatic since they were voiced by a couple of actors who aren't that well known, but I think they did a decent job, I hope that if Lelouch of the Rebellion finally gets dubbed into Neutral Spanish they could voiced them again. Ironically, Nina was voiced by a much more well known VA and weirdly enough, Cornelia's VA only has one anime role. Rozé's Spanish dub is weird, they gave Callis a very deep voice that was obviously done by an adult, despite him being only 10 years old, they should have casted a woman or even a actual young child VA. |
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MFrontier
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Well, Divock is your typical brutish and arrogant Brittanian, but Narah seems to actually draw the line at killing civilians...not that it stops her from going along with the plan.
So Ash definitely recognized Narah by name...and Sakuya seemed to be deliberately trying to keep him from encountering her. It's funny how Ash thinks "Roze" is this hyper-competent, always prepared, individual when Sakuya is just using Geass to make everything convenient for her. Then again, that is basically what it's for. I love how Sakuya's Knightmare is distinctly female down to it's Mecha form having a female body with boobs. It's practically screaming Roze is actually a girl! Bless Sakura for trying, but Norland REALLY does not seem the type who cares about their political standing. Hey, Oda actually got to look cool! Never thought I'd see it. Divock has pure power but Haruka has speed! And in a battle between the two of them, Haruka comes off the victor! All she really needed was a unit that could bring out her full potential. Narah seems to be every bit Ash's equal in combat, but she also seemed to recognize him by his combat moves. RIP Tomi. You may have looked like Not!Ohgi, but you fought bravely right up until your kamikaze moment. Apollo and Artemis are siblings, of COURSE they can combine! And the mechanic girl is totally into it! I guess I can respect Divock being willing to put himself out there to use the last FLEIJA, though just desserts that it ends up being what vaporizes him. Well, if they can't annihilate Sapporo, they can destroy the Damocles with the last FLEIJA and have it crush the resistance. |
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Envyus
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Nina didn't actually miscalculate the number of remaining bombs. She said they had three at most, and two were loaded into the Damocles. They assumed from the Damocles having two that was all they had, but Christoph had the third.
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MFrontier
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Well, pretty convenient solution to the Damocles, but I guess now the bad guys know about geass which was their main objective.
I was really expecting Nina to stick around but I guess there really isn't much else for her to do now. At least she has the peace of mind that her greatest sin is now destroyed. Also I'm glad Sakai is staying around. I really want to know more about Sakuya's parents now. Were those actual nipples on Sakuya!? How did they get away with that!? Raspberry returns! And Ash is still following her like a puppy. Narah actually has an interesting perspective. She's fighting not out of a sense of superiority towards the Japanese but for the sake of Brittanians being discriminated against. I mean, she chose the wrong side but still. Finding out the guy who is in love with you didn't actually kill your father and is genuinely against your enemy (minus the Big Bad being his adoptive father) makes him much more dateable. I'm guessing they're going to do a fake out of Walther ratting Sakura out when in reality he's still loyal to Sakuya via her mother (it's noticeable he still calls the Japanese Japanese instead of Eleven) but he couldn't have waited for her to get properly dressed? Then again...Code Geass. |
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tintor2
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In the end Taniguchi created the most evil Char Aznable clone ever. The way Ash's brother was killed was anticlimatic but gory as we see the poor kid getting impaled in such a casual manner
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all-tsun-and-no-dere
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Taniguchi is not involved with Recapture. He's too busy trying to make web3 anime a thing. |
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