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iluvrice2
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:22 pm
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I knew it was unlikely, but it's still pretty disappointing we're going to be missing out on the Working Design Sega CD games that JP is getting (Popful Mail and both Lunar's).
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RockSplash
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:03 pm
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I know it was a slim chance of happening, but I'm sad both castlevania bloodlines and Snatcher are nowhere to be seen. Also, I know they already have a few of them, but I wish the anime FMV games like Road Avenger and Cobra Command were included. Oh well, there are alternative sources if you really need to play those games...
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ninjamitsuki
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:20 pm
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So sad Lunar is on the Japanese one but not the English one.
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Lord Geo
Joined: 18 Sep 2005
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Location: North Brunswick, New Jersey
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:49 pm
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ninjamitsuki wrote: | So sad Lunar is on the Japanese one but not the English one. |
The reason why neither Lunar game is included in English, even on the MD Mini 2, is pretty much because Victor Ireland actually held on to the English voice over rights for those games, and refused the accept the same flat licensing fee that Sega of Japan offered to everyone else, and it's likely that the same was true for Popful Mail, as well.
This was likely the only chance he'll ever have at being able to make some extra money off of that stuff, and he chose to make $0 & screw the fans over, simply because he felt that the offer was a low ball. All he owns, by his own admission, is English voice over audio, yet that alone was enough to prevent the English versions from being included, because there were no subtitles for the cutscenes that would have allowed M2 to simply dummy out the voice overs (it was admitted that this was a potential situation for Captain Tsubasa's inclusion on the MD Mini 2, but Sega was able to get all of those rights settled, in that case).
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iluvrice2
Joined: 09 Dec 2021
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:06 pm
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RockSplash wrote: | I know it was a slim chance of happening, but I'm sad both castlevania bloodlines and Snatcher are nowhere to be seen. Also, I know they already have a few of them, but I wish the anime FMV games like Road Avenger and Cobra Command were included. Oh well, there are alternative sources if you really need to play those games... |
I would consider Road Avenger one of my gateways to anime. That OP is GOAT.
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iluvrice2
Joined: 09 Dec 2021
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:14 pm
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Lord Geo wrote: |
ninjamitsuki wrote: | So sad Lunar is on the Japanese one but not the English one. |
The reason why neither Lunar game is included in English, even on the MD Mini 2, is pretty much because Victor Ireland actually held on to the English voice over rights for those games, and refused the accept the same flat licensing fee that Sega of Japan offered to everyone else, and it's likely that the same was true for Popful Mail, as well.
This was likely the only chance he'll ever have at being able to make some extra money off of that stuff, and he chose to make $0 & screw the fans over, simply because he felt that the offer was a low ball. All he owns, by his own admission, is English voice over audio, yet that alone was enough to prevent the English versions from being included, because there were no subtitles for the cutscenes that would have allowed M2 to simply dummy out the voice overs (it was admitted that this was a potential situation for Captain Tsubasa's inclusion on the MD Mini 2, but Sega was able to get all of those rights settled, in that case). |
Of course Vic screws us over one last time at the end. It's amazing how much I ended up resenting WD in the end after being one of their biggest fans during the Sega days. From cancelling Lunar Silver Star on Saturn, to the YEARS of delays on both Silver Star and Eternal Blue so he could include some sock puppets, many more YEARS of unnecessary delays on the few games they put out after, and sitting on and killing the Samurai Showdown RPG rights, he did everything he could to drive WD into the ground.
This rant makes me feel like I should have been an uncle isekai'd to another world for 17 years...
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Tenchi
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
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Location: Ottawa... now I'm an ex-Anglo Montrealer.
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:24 am
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Since, as a Canadian, I doubt I'm even going to be able to get a Genesis Mini 2, I really hope Sega makes at least Crusader of Centy available on other platforms (preferably on Steam so I can own the game; even if I had a Nintendo Switch, I'm not paying live service fees just to play decades-old Sega Genesis games).
Sega could probably have communicated better that Space Harrier II, previously available on the first Sega Genesis Mini, was a new port using the scaling ability of the Sega CD and which also includes the original Space Harrier, which I prefer anyway. Hopefully that one also is on Steam.
The Super Scaler port that needed a remaster the most is OutRunners considering that the original port from Data East as included on the Genesis Mini 2 shrank the arcade's graphics to fit it into a half-screen, even if you're playing single player, and the arcade original's graphics were next level compared to those on the original OutRun.
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LaraCK
Joined: 22 Aug 2022
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:19 am
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RockSplash wrote: | Oh well, there are alternative sources if you really need to play those games... |
This is true, but still a little different. It remains to console themselves that in the future they may change their attitude towards some things.
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Penrhos
Joined: 09 Jun 2021
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:29 am
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If it's as secure as the last one the missing games should be easy to side-load onto it...
Just need a Saturn & Dreamcast mini now (although installing a Fenrir into my old Saturn has given it a new lease of life as the OD died years ago).
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BadNewsBlues
Joined: 21 Sep 2014
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:09 pm
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Penrhos wrote: | If it's as secure as the last one the missing games should be easy to side-load onto it... |
I hope so because the decision to use the Sega Genesis version of Earthworm Jim 2 and not the Sega CD version was weird as hell.
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Lord Geo
Joined: 18 Sep 2005
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Location: North Brunswick, New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:36 pm
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BadNewsBlues wrote: |
Penrhos wrote: | If it's as secure as the last one the missing games should be easy to side-load onto it... |
I hope so because the decision to use the Sega Genesis version of Earthworm Jim 2 and not the Sega CD version was weird as hell. |
EWJ1 had the Sega CD version, not 2, though I do agree that they should have gone with Earthworm Jim CD instead of EWJ2, which I'm not a big fan of.
As for sideloading, I do wonder how much would actually be possible, as the M2 producer revealed that they just managed to squeeze everything into an 8GB storage solution, so it's possible that there might not really be much space left over, at least for adding more Sega CD games.
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BadNewsBlues
Joined: 21 Sep 2014
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:48 pm
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Lord Geo wrote: |
EWJ1 had the Sega CD version, not 2, |
Yep I botched that up
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