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This Week in Games - Starting Over from Zenless Zone Zero

KOEI Tecmo would “definitely like to consider releasing English versions” of Ruby Party otome games to follow up Touken Ranbu Warriors, which is dropping on Switch and Steam next week.

Most of those companies aren't giving access to their “crown jewel” titles, either—where's Final Fantasy VII Remake?

But perhaps the most insulting thing about the Diversity Space Tool is that it's a complex solution to a problem that is very easily solved. Here's what you do: hire employees of different backgrounds, make sure you don't create a hostile work environment for them so they stick around (this one's important!), and then ask then for input and feedback about character designs. It works better than any kind of algorithm, and it makes employees feel like their input is valued and respected. Everybody wins!

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But perhaps the most insulting thing about the Diversity Space Tool is that it's a complex solution to a problem that is very easily solved. Here's what you do: hire employees of different backgrounds, make sure you don't create a hostile work environment for them so they stick around (this one's important!), and then ask then for input and feedback about character designs. It works better than any kind of algorithm, and it makes employees feel like their input is valued and respected. Everybody wins!

As someone who has experienced racial and gender-identity based discrimination, as well as workplace abuse, the most insulting thing about this comment is the oversimplification of a complex issue. Yes. I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment of this statement. The absolute best way to produce an effective and meaningful character, plot, culture, setting or anything else, is to grow as a human. The absolute best way to grow as a human is to encounter and experience as many perspectives as humanly possible, both directly and vicariously. Then later, experience them again. This can be achieved with great success with a diverse workplace, as a diverse community lends to diverse perspectives. At the same time, you have to be careful how you approach diversity.

Ethnicity, gender identity, sexual preference and race have no place in the hiring metric. The moment that you increase or decrease the value of or in any of these categories, you begin discriminating. By increasing or decreasing these values, you begin removing agency from the individual based on these categories. You begin setting the worth of the individual based on these categories. Even when you need a specific perspective from a specific demographic, you don't hire based on these categories. Picking a person of a specific race or ethnicity with a specific gender identity to effectively represent an entire population of people (whether in a workplace setting or to act as the 'living guidebook' by which to model a character, location, culture or demographic) is the result of a gross generalization of stereotypes reflected by the hiring party's own preconceptions of how representation of said demographic should appear.

No one gets to choose what they are born into, but they can attempt to choose where they go from there. Many individuals work hard to make it to your inbox. So do not categorically over/invalidate, over/devalue and/or discredit an individual's passion, experiences, accomplishments, credibility, and goals based on a metric that is entirely outside of their control. You don't need to hire a person with a specific gender identity, you need to hire a person with experience with that community. I know it sounds like I'm saying the same thing twice, but there's an important nuance to the thinking and preconceptions of those two statements. That nuance is the key to perfecting diversity.

Knowing LGBT folk and being LGBT is not the same. A white kid in a black neighborhood might understand what his friends feel but can never know what it is like one to one. The only way to make games with diversity is to look and have a divest work force anything else will led to bad ideals like this diversity grid.

I'm going to disagree on the grounds that Black Panther is the most successful black superhero despite being created by two white guys.

Smash fans throwing some shade

But perhaps the most insulting thing about the Diversity Space Tool is that it's a complex solution to a problem that is very easily solved. Here's what you do: hire employees of different backgrounds, make sure you don't create a hostile work environment for them so they stick around (this one's important!), and then ask then for input and feedback about character designs. It works better than any kind of algorithm, and it makes employees feel like their input is valued and respected. Everybody wins!

Ghani says that his team has carried out unpublished analyses comparing algorithms used in public health, criminal justice and education to human decision making. They found that the machine-learning systems were biased — but less so than the people.

“We are still using these algorithms called humans that are really biased,” says Ghani. “We’ve tested them and known that they’re horrible, but we still use them to make really important decisions every day.”

enurtsol wrote:

Smash fans throwing some shade

They need to drum up interest somehow if they don't want to be dead in a week

Now that I read about the diversity tool "scandal" for the first time, I'm surprised how much seemingly bad argumentation there are from those who criticize it (at least in the articles that were linked here, I hope there are better articles about this somewhere).