Forum - View topicNEWS: PlayStation 5 Console Sells 118,000 Units in Japan; Xbox Series X/S Sells 20,000
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Kougeru
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they should've delayed release to stock up like a million in each region
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I remember when the original article regarding the XSX selling out came out, people were saying Xbox finally had a chance to win some marketshare from Sony, but as expected, that's not the case
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BadNewsBlues
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You’d still likely have a sell out. I’m also not surprised at this result for all the caterwauling people were going on about how Sony was turning off the Japanese segment of their audience off from the brand with some of their decisions. |
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Pokenatic
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So the PS5 outsold the PS3 by 40% or so, but behind the PS4 by a whopping 66% or so. Really curious to see where it'll stack up compared to those two by the end of the generation. The PS4 blew the PS3 out of the starting gate, but it's currently 1.2 million behind it in lifetime sales with next to no chance of overtaking since I can't imagine it would have anywhere near the post gen legs that the PS2 managed to have.
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Tripple-A
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I think the price plays a big role in that. The PS3 was really expensive, especially at launch, the PS4 quite the opposite. After just 2-3 year the first sales at around 200,- started to appear, which was insanely fast. Sure in the end the games will always decide the "winner" and thus the majority of the sales but a quick price drop like the PS4 had will boost the sales a lot too. I don't really know what you mean with the lifetime sales, as there is a huge difference between any of the Playstations, the PS1 and PS4 are the closest with "just" a 10 million difference. |
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lostrune
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That's been the case for awhile though. All the best selling games in Japan are on the Switch, or the 3DS before it. Sony's been losing ground in Japan ever since the PS3 while the Xbox brand has never been a contender in Japan. Gaming in Japan these days is mostly mobage and Nintendo. Sony hasn't been big in Japan since the days of the PS2 and PSP. |
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mdo7
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You're not the only one. Yeah, ever since PS4's later launch in Japan (remember PS4 launched in Japan several months after it's launched in NA and Europe) , I've started to noticed Sony not taking their Japanese market seriously like they were back during the PS2 and the early era of PS3. Also the fact that Sony's video game headquarter moved from Tokyo to San Mateo, California is another evidence that Sony is not taking the Japanese market like it used to. So I'm not that surprised that the PS5 sold 100,000+ in Japan. Nintendo is always an exception in Japan. But I do wonder if video game has a future in Japan because of the growing market for video game in other part of East Asia (ie: China, South Korea). |
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enurtsol
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Both consoles are supply-constrained right now, i.e. they're selling as much as they're producing
That means Sony provided Japan only ~118,000 PS5s, while Microsoft provided Japan only ~20,000 Series X/S They're moving the rest of the consoles they produced to other places where they believe are more in need |
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BlueRex666
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As always, Japan views Microsoft's console efforts as non-existent.
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enurtsol
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Don't expect console prices to decrease much from this gen here on out. We're at a point now that cost reduction opportunities are getting thin on the ground. Look at PS4 Pro and Xbox One X prices - they're not decreasing as fast as previous consoles. Previous generations were kind of easy because at the beginning of the generation, you make something really expensive - put as much silicon and as much performance as you could into it - then you would just ride the cost reduction curves down to mass market prices. That cost reduction path was driven principally by silicon cost reduction. That's not there anymore. Moore's Law is continuing, but what it's not bringing any more is a good cost reduction cost per transistor. Processor performance is tied closely to transistor count - but if the cost per transistor is not reducing, a new chip with more logic will cost a lot more to make, even if it's actually smaller than today's processors. For the new consoles, a smaller, slimmer machine is a possibility - but the actual cost of making it won't change that much.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/11/10/business/tech/microsoft-sony-console-clash/
They're proud to be back to Tier 1 country for Xbox https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/review/1283223.html
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Pokenatic
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Lifetime sales in Japan. The numbers for the PS3 and PS4 are 10.4 and 9.2 million respectively, hence the 1.2 million gap I mentioned. There’s been quite a bit of talk about how Sony is putting less focus on the Japanese market after the PS4’s numbers underwhelmed there when it didn’t have any major issues holding it back to the same capacity that the PS3 had for most of the generation (that the PS3’s Cell processor was such a pain to develop games for was probably why the XBox 360 managed to finally give Microsoft some amount of footing in Japan). Initial sales clearly won’t paint the full picture for how that’ll pan out for the rest of the new generation, but with the way things are already moving with the tail end of the PS4, it’s hard not to wonder. Seeing the upcoming Gal Gun game coming to the Switch and even Xbox but not PlayStation is definitely eyebrow raising and I can’t help but wonder if Disgaea 6’s western release being exclusive to the Switch for at least one year even though it’s also releasing on PlayStation in Japan has something to do with it too (presumably NISA will be localizing it like usual; a region specific timed exclusivity deal would be the next logical conclusion but that is definitely leaning into ridiculous territory). |
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BadNewsBlues
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Which is likely because of the portability of the systems not because of Sony "censoring" the anime games. You also ignore the sales of other games in the region that of course are not on the Switch such as Monster Hunter World, Final Fantasy 7R, and others.
Japan is notoriously wishy-washy on consoles compared to handhelds. |
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mdo7
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Enurtsol, Thank you for that article and information about Sony's lack of taking the Japanese market seriously. It's what I thought and observed in the Japanese market. Yeah, I knew a few years ago there was something wrong in the Japanese market for the last few years and that explain the rise in video game markets in Mainland China and South Korea. I'm not sure what's the status of PS5 and Xbox Series S/X for those 2 countries, but it would be interesting to see if the 2 new next gen consoles can make a dent in the 2 countries I mentioned. |
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