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cookiemanstah
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:31 pm
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like i know people might just disagree for the sake of it, but the Clannad VN isn't really even that good. It's such a fascinating example of an anime dwarfing what it's adapting and a testament to how much heart Kyoto Animation can put into something when they really want to (looking at Chuu2 and Free).
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FireChick
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:52 pm
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Buying it.
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SaitoHajime101
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:05 pm
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I would love to buy this game if I didn't already own the Kickstarter physical release with all the goods. I envy all those who buy this version
I have to disagree with cookiemonstah. The VN, while not perfect, it still served as a fascinating family story. In my opinion, the true pull of the game was the fact it takes the story beyond the simple school life. At the time the game released, it wasn't common (and I still don't think it is) to see a story reflect that hardships of the adult life, regardless how over-the-top and outlandish it can be at times. I felt the pain that was truly established in After Story, both VN and Anime.
I can see where your argument is coming from cookiemonstah, however considering Kyoto Animation has adapted more than just Clannad from Key, it's more of a testament to the popularity of Key's works, than just Kyoto Animation. Don't get me wrong, the adaptation was good, but elements of the story suffered at KyoAni's hands in the adaptation (the lights as a perfect example, probably should've been left out or replaced due to only really being referenced twice in 44 episodes...).
I think both the VN and Anime compliment each other well and should be consumed as a package than just one or the other.
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cookiemanstah
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:16 pm
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SaitoHajime101 wrote: | I would love to buy this game if I didn't already own the Kickstarter physical release with all the goods. I envy all those who buy this version
I have to disagree with cookiemonstah. The VN, while not perfect, it still served as a fascinating family story. In my opinion, the true pull of the game was the fact it takes the story beyond the simple school life. At the time the game released, it wasn't common (and I still don't think it is) to see a story reflect that hardships of the adult life, regardless how over-the-top and outlandish it can be at times. I felt the pain that was truly established in After Story, both VN and Anime.
I can see where your argument is coming from cookiemonstah, however considering Kyoto Animation has adapted more than just Clannad from Key, it's more of a testament to the popularity of Key's works, than just Kyoto Animation. Don't get me wrong, the adaptation was good, but elements of the story suffered at KyoAni's hands in the adaptation (the lights as a perfect example, probably should've been left out or replaced due to only really being referenced twice in 44 episodes...).
I think both the VN and Anime compliment each other well and should be consumed as a package than just one or the other. |
AIR, Kanon, and Clannad all have good anime. Shame for the rest of Key's adaptations other than Planetarian
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crazieanimefan1
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:20 pm
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I have the anime, both seasons. I never did get to do the VN, so I plan on getting this.
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zunderdog24
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:24 pm
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SaitoHajime101 wrote: | (the lights as a perfect example, probably should've been left out or replaced due to only really being referenced twice in 44 episodes...). |
What do you mean the lights should have been left out? theyre like.... super important to tomoya- scratch that; theyre super essential to the story.
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Key
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:45 pm
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zunderdog24 wrote: | What do you mean the lights should have been left out? theyre like.... super important to tomoya- scratch that; theyre super essential to the story. |
In the VN, maybe. They were never actually explained in the anime, IIRC. In fact, I think I remember that being a significant point of contention between anime-only and VN fans back in the day.
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grooven
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:10 pm
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Key wrote: |
zunderdog24 wrote: | What do you mean the lights should have been left out? theyre like.... super important to tomoya- scratch that; theyre super essential to the story. |
In the VN, maybe. They were never actually explained in the anime, IIRC. In fact, I think I remember that being a significant point of contention between anime-only and VN fans back in the day. |
They are explained by Yukine it's only not obvious that you earn them for each character.
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RealMTL
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:20 pm
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I was literally just about to order a Japanese import of this lol. Definitely gonna pick this up!
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SaitoHajime101
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:22 pm
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grooven wrote: |
Key wrote: |
zunderdog24 wrote: | What do you mean the lights should have been left out? theyre like.... super important to tomoya- scratch that; theyre super essential to the story. |
In the VN, maybe. They were never actually explained in the anime, IIRC. In fact, I think I remember that being a significant point of contention between anime-only and VN fans back in the day. |
They are explained by Yukine it's only not obvious that you earn them for each character. |
It was also brought up in After Story by Kotomi Ichinose, just more science oriented.
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Megiddo
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:30 pm
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Clannad has had a physical release in the west since like 2016. Might want to add 'Switch version' or something cause I was baffled by the headline.
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Stampeed Valkyrie
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:06 am
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Good for switch owners.
PS4 owners can get this via Digital Distribution, or just go an import the "Asia Release" for this game and its in english anyway.
As for Clannad not being a good VN
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toprak
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:19 am
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Clannad is my only and first VN that I've played, so I will buy it definitely.
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invalidname
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:21 pm
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SaitoHajime101 wrote: | In my opinion, the true pull of the game was the fact it takes the story beyond the simple school life. At the time the game released, it wasn't common (and I still don't think it is) to see a story reflect that hardships of the adult life, regardless how over-the-top and outlandish it can be at times. I felt the pain that was truly established in After Story, both VN and Anime. |
God, I hope we get an English version of the Kimi ga Nozomu Eien / Rumbling Hearts VN someday.
As for Clannad itself, that visual guidebook and the arranged music CD look identical to what came with the Kickstarter physical edition. I wonder if the book is a reprint, and if it will still have 10 pages of Kickstarter backers in tiny type.
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HuuskerDu
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:24 pm
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I heard that the VN was an eroge, or has it been cleaned up?
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