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rtil
Joined: 22 May 2005
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 1:32 am
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as much as i love to hear the voice of Haruko and the sweet sounds of the Pillows, these trailers just aren't doing it for me. the animation looks like a pale imitation of everything that encapsulated the original FLCL.
FLCL was lightning in a bottle. the right time for a sequel has come and gone - when there was a chance that all the original staff could have the opportunity to work on it.
i really do hope that FLCL 2 and 3 prove me wrong and blow me away, but it's hard to imagine that everything that made FLCL special can be recaptured so many years after the legacy it left behind.
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Yazu13
Joined: 19 Jul 2017
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 1:41 am
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It looks good, maybe not as special as the first FLCL, but it looks like they're at least shaking things up a little. If nothing else, we all get a new Pillows album!
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Joshua Zarate
Joined: 12 Jan 2017
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 2:15 am
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Looks pretty fun. Can’t wait!
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Hypeathon
Joined: 12 Aug 2010
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 2:35 am
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Since Adult Swim finished re-airing all of FLCL again, it gave me some time to further reflect on the show and why I feel the way I do about it. I'm gonna go against the grain here and say that while I have eventually understood what FLCL was trying to say and how it was trying to say it, I just don't love it.
It indulged so much into being as aesthetically absurd and zany as possible, that it distracted me from being able to better understand and appreciate the point of its story. It was the same problem I had with Kill la Kill and its presentation. While I like both anime titles, I can't find myself ever loving them for those exact reasons and is thus why I cannot fully relate to everyone treating the original like some magic, lighting-in-a-bottle project. It's also why I can't relate to everyone's overwhelming skepticism for FLCL Progressive and Alternative. Hell, if anything, my feelings on the original FLCL are probably why I'm more optimistic towards these new installments. I feel as if they may tone down the absurdity slightly-enough to make it easier for me to appreciate these sequels.
Yeah, blasphemous thing to say, I know. But I'm sorry. That's just how I genuinely feel about all of this.
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MarshalBanana
Joined: 31 Aug 2014
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 5:04 am
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it is so great to see VAs that you just don't see much of any more, VAs who were active in the Anime scene of the 00s. I've only seen Kari Wahlgren in Fate and Durarara in the last few years, and the only title I've seen Yuri Lowenthal in was Durarara.
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MoonPhase1
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 7:51 am
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MarshalBanana wrote: | it is so great to see VAs that you just don't see much of any more, VAs who were active in the Anime scene of the 00s. I've only seen Kari Wahlgren in Fate and Durarara in the last few years, and the only title I've seen Yuri Lowenthal in was Durarara. |
Many did move on to videogames for awhile, but those games have been lacking dubs as of late. You can also hear them in American cartoons and cartoon movies in the Additional Voices. But many veteran actors moved on and come back on occasion or teach people to become one.
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v1cious
Joined: 31 Dec 2002
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 9:14 am
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MarshalBanana wrote: | it is so great to see VAs that you just don't see much of any more, VAs who were active in the Anime scene of the 00s. I've only seen Kari Wahlgren in Fate and Durarara in the last few years, and the only title I've seen Yuri Lowenthal in was Durarara. |
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Kahri Wahlgren's still very much around, she just doesn't do anime any more. She's in at least two big American shows at the moment (The Loud House, Rick and Morty).
This trailer gave me a little more hope, but the same problem still exists: They're trying too hard to mimic the formula of the original. They should've threw it out and did their own thing, instead of trying to capture what made the old one work.
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Takkun4343
Joined: 19 Jul 2007
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 9:36 am
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Such cynicism... Well I'm gonna enjoy it, no matter how awkward the references to overflowing and "NEVER KNOWS BEST" are.
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MarshalBanana
Joined: 31 Aug 2014
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 10:22 am
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v1cious wrote: |
MarshalBanana wrote: | it is so great to see VAs that you just don't see much of any more, VAs who were active in the Anime scene of the 00s. I've only seen Kari Wahlgren in Fate and Durarara in the last few years, and the only title I've seen Yuri Lowenthal in was Durarara. |
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Kahri Wahlgren's still very much around, she just doesn't do anime any more. She's in at least two big American shows at the moment (The Loud House, Rick and Morty). |
Thank you for pointing that out, that said I did deliberately make sure to say "Anime scene of the 00s", as I knew I knew otherwise I would get corrected. Maybe I should have always said "much of any more in Anime".
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TheMorry
Joined: 08 May 2014
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 1:34 pm
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If i say I still haven't watched the original FLCL yet do I fail as a anime fan? xD (only got into anime 4 years ago)
Perhaps I should watch it before this season starts. I've the DVD for a few years now xD. I loved Kill la Kill so if this is anything like that ill enjoy it.
I honestly hope this sequel is going to be great. The big gap between the seasons shouldnt be a issue like some people think. For example: Full Metal Panic IV is doing great. DB Super is doing fine(better than GT but wrse than GT would be a miracle)
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Kougeru
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 2:13 pm
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Takkun4343 wrote: | Such cynicism... Well I'm gonna enjoy it, no matter how awkward the references to overflowing and "NEVER KNOWS BEST" are. |
there's a difference between cynicism and doubt/lack of hope. These trailers are giving little reason NOT to doubt these "sequels". They're giving little reason to have real hope that these will be anywhere near as good as the original. They just feel too much (and pretty much are) like official "fan fiction". It would be like if somehow got the rights to Star Wars and made my own sequel that was more tribute to the original than anything actually good and unique. Oh wait, Disney did exactly that lol. It's OFFICIAL in the sense that they got the rights, but none of the original writers or Director are involved - probably the two most important staff members, so unless they took the ideas from the original people, it can't be the sequel most people wanted a decade+ ago.
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Joshua Zarate
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 3:01 pm
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^^The original director is supervising this whole thing. How is that not considered to be involved? So unless you’re deliberately ignoring that aspect just because you refuse to see why some people may actually be glad about this sequel, I think you need to get your eyes checked.
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MarshalBanana
Joined: 31 Aug 2014
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 3:07 pm
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Kougeru wrote: | there's a difference between cynicism and doubt/lack of hope. These trailers are giving little reason NOT to doubt these "sequels". They're giving little reason to have real hope that these will be anywhere near as good as the original. They just feel too much (and pretty much are) like official "fan fiction". |
I don't know about that, sometime ago they released character art, and the first reaction was accusations of it being fan art not drawn by the original artist, but it was drawn by the original character artist. So it just came across as trying to find fault just for the sake of it.
And can we please stop calling it fan fiction, if this had gone for a different art style and tone it would of been criticised for being unfaithful. It seems like a thinly veiled excuse to criticise having mostly new staff members.
There is actually some irony to this, after directing FLCL, the director, and I think some of the other team members, made Diebuster, which was criticised for not having the original director.
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anddo
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 4:11 pm
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I'm just excited to hear Megumi Hayashibara again.
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CosmicCortex
Joined: 20 May 2018
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 4:28 pm
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v1cious wrote: |
MarshalBanana wrote: | it is so great to see VAs that you just don't see much of any more, VAs who were active in the Anime scene of the 00s. I've only seen Kari Wahlgren in Fate and Durarara in the last few years, and the only title I've seen Yuri Lowenthal in was Durarara. |
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Kahri Wahlgren's still very much around, she just doesn't do anime any more. She's in at least two big American shows at the moment (The Loud House, Rick and Morty). |
It's not that she doesn't do anime anymore so much as she only does union projects, which a majority of dubs aren't.
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