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NEWS: Netflix to Co-Produce Anime With Production I.G, Bones, WIT Studio


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residentgrigo



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:31 pm Reply with quote
But haven´t Netflix anime originals been going on for like a year? B: The Beginning is only weeks away after all and will be release with all eps. at once. As "proper" Netflix shows are.
A wish them luck, i guess. One of these has to be good and Netflix produced a LOT of good toons. I wonder if the latest GitS reboot will be part of this...
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Chiyosuke



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:20 pm Reply with quote
FlyGuySempai wrote:
Netlix is not playing any games, they dont want their sh*t looking like Berserk (2016/17)


*shudders* I didn't even make it past the first ep. It just made me more nostalgic to the OLM adaption
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DamianSalazar



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:39 pm Reply with quote
0nsen wrote:
@Devilman Crybaby

That's part of a franchise that started in the 1970s and I didn't like a single anime related to it - I watched about eight. I haven't seen it and I don't particularly care to watch it, either.

Looking at screenshots, though, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Something that tries to appeal to Western audiences by shifting core values. Sure, that show isn't going for the mass market, but it's a step of transforming anime towards that end. I'm willing to bet that it doesn't have pantsu shots of little girls and really, isn't that what anime is all about? Protagonists slipping and accidentally fondling breasts and all that kind of stuff, y'know. The kind of things that can't even be missing from a show like Evangelion. The kind of things that make a show not recommendable to other people, that are not into anime, because they wouldn't get it. The heart of anime.

Devilman Crybaby looks like the kind of show that you can recommend to people outside the fandom. And that's not a bad thing. I just don't want Netflix to shift core values of anime by throwing money at it. Whenever a big company did throw money at something popular with a niche audience, the product got destroyed in the process, because they didn't get it.


So, simply put, you're afraid of Netflix producing anime that doesn't contain the conventional tropes people got tired of like "Accidental Pervert" and so on, or that it may not have divisive things like moe or isekai which are currently flooding anime as we speak.

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Hope I didn't put too many emoticons there, but seriously you're afraid of Netflix not following the crowd by producing moe/isekai/incest/imouto series that would turn off a Westerner who has never understood/watched anime. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:41 pm Reply with quote
Considering the fact that Devilman Crybaby ended up being many people's Anime Of The Season for Winter 2018. Netflix streaming New Grappler Baki, a CGI Saint Seiya, and releasing Children Of The Whales and Compulsive Gambler, Netflix has shown that it is at least willing to try and curate a catalog of content.

Becoming a co-producer with Production I. G. which has a rich pedigree of Anime from Ghost In The Shell all the way to slice of life Girl's Romance like Blue Spring Ride and historical espionage thrillers like Joker Game. While Bones has everything from Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood to Ouran High School Host Club.

While Wit has shown they can make a good adaptation of a popular series with Attack On Titan and have enough sense to wait and devote time to the more difficult to animate season two of that franchise.

While also make something as heartfelt and melancholy as Love is Like after the Rain. Netflix has gotten some established talent and a bright young gun in the respective studios.

Netflix has shown the large extent that it cares for the media it releases. Provided the reach does not exceed Netflix's grasp I see no reason why this should be a good thing, of course, there will always be a subset of Western Anime fans that will use this as an excuse to either defend piracy or say this will somehow "kill" legal streaming in The West.

Nothing is concrete as of now for this plan but I hold out hope that it may give the studios a chance to get things made or released in The West that couldn't get released otherwise. Time will tell but I'm cautiously optimistic which is as optimistic as I get.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:42 pm Reply with quote
I like the anime that Netflix has acquired in the past and the little bit of original stuff they have produced so this announcement is good news, for me.
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relyat08



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:04 pm Reply with quote
Amazon takes a step back, while Netflix takes a massive leap forward. I, for one, am extremely happy with this development. Netflix has shown that they know how to get involved in a media producing industry without destroying what the fans love about it, while Amazon most certainly did not. Qualms with their simulcasting policy aside, the more anime they produce from the ground up and release simultaneously, the less that will matter in the long run.

Top Gun wrote:
0nsen wrote:
@Devilman Crybaby
Looking at screenshots, though, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Something that tries to appeal to Western audiences by shifting core values. Sure, that show isn't going for the mass market, but it's a step of transforming anime towards that end. I'm willing to bet that it doesn't have pantsu shots of little girls and really, isn't that what anime is all about? Protagonists slipping and accidentally fondling breasts and all that kind of stuff, y'know. The kind of things that can't even be missing from a show like Evangelion. The kind of things that make a show not recommendable to other people, that are not into anime, because they wouldn't get it. The heart of anime.

This right here is why I don't broadcast the fact that I'm an anime fan. I mean, Christ...


It's like they missed the transforming breasts, graphic sex scenes, and X-rated violence that still exists in Devilman Crybaby. Also, for the record, some of the Netflix Originals so far have absolutely had panty shots and boob fondling. I wouldn't worry about losing that, nor over-the-top sex and violence. With Netflix, as long as they maintain their current style of involvement, we will undoubtedly have both.
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Random Name



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:04 pm Reply with quote
Hmm the only anime Netflix has licensed so far that I have liked is fate. Maybe this will change that. I know Bones did Chaika, show by rock, and soul eater so they can't be all bad. But after looking over IG and Wit The Rolling Girls was the only one that caught my eye so my guess is this deal won't affect my watching very much.
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DamianSalazar



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:12 pm Reply with quote
What 0nsen probably didn't realise is that Netflix =/= Network/Cable Television.

Netflix have Big Mouth, which is probably the most raunchy cartoon on the site e.g. there is a scene where a guy has sex with his pillow and impregnates said pillow to form a human-pillow hybrid baby. Creative freedom and no limits reign supreme on Netflix.
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:16 pm Reply with quote
DamianSalazar wrote:
Hope I didn't put too many emoticons there, but seriously you're afraid of Netflix not following the crowd by producing moe/isekai/incest/imouto series that would turn off a Westerner who has never understood/watched anime. Laughing
So you're saying it would be good for Netflix to make Anime that moves away from what we get. Just so we can get away from your Boogeyman list. I don't get any Netflix produced Anime like BBB or or Punchline, but on the upside there is no SAO. That's what they call, "throwing the baby out with the bath water"
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relyat08



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:43 pm Reply with quote
MarshalBanana wrote:
DamianSalazar wrote:
Hope I didn't put too many emoticons there, but seriously you're afraid of Netflix not following the crowd by producing moe/isekai/incest/imouto series that would turn off a Westerner who has never understood/watched anime. Laughing
So you're saying it would be good for Netflix to make Anime that moves away from what we get. Just so we can get away from your Boogeyman list. I don't get any Netflix produced Anime like BBB or or Punchline, but on the upside there is no SAO. That's what they call, "throwing the baby out with the bath water"


That's not what happens with streaming in general though. It doesn't dilute content. Streaming doesn't make money by producing only a few things that appeal to everyone, they make money by having many things that appeal to different audiences. That's how they bring in the most people. While it doesn't hurt to have a single thing that appeals to tons of people, that's not what they need to grow. In order to capture the largest subscription base, they need to have smaller scale things that appeal to all sorts of people and that niche audiences want. Why do you think they bother with anime in the first place? Or K-drama, or any number of other niche media thing have on their service? If they just want content that appeals to the most people, all they would be producing is basic-ass CSI crime dramas. The reason they are successful is because they know how to capture all of these niche audiences by offering them the things they want. Not changing them and watering them down, but giving them exactly what they want and have always wanted Their behavior up to this point has proven they know how to do that.
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VanGosroth



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:46 pm Reply with quote
DamianSalazar wrote:


So, simply put, you're afraid of Netflix producing anime that doesn't contain the conventional tropes people got tired of like "Accidental Pervert" and so on, or that it may not have divisive things like moe or isekai which are currently flooding anime as we speak.

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Hope I didn't put too many emoticons there, but seriously you're afraid of Netflix not following the crowd by producing moe/isekai/incest/imouto series that would turn off a Westerner who has never understood/watched anime. Laughing


None of these studios make titty shows anyway so there's nothing to worry about. I'm all for new anime as long as my beloved softcore porn series don't become extinct.
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hack5



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:50 pm Reply with quote
If anything, Netflix still thinks it’s the 80’s and anime = porn.[/quote]

This is what i think also when i watch Devilman crybaby i was like what the hell is this,its like a 80's porn anime where its sex,drugs,blood and gore and did i mention sex and lets not start with the art good god to even compare it to an 80's anime is an insult the story was okay i guess but after i finish the series i was wondering what the hell i just watch lol.The
thing that bothers me the most is that what the Japanese think westerners would like or is it what Netflix wanted?
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hack5



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:51 pm Reply with quote
Beatdigga wrote:
0nsen wrote:
I don't like Netflix messing with anime. Not at all. Netflix is mass market and what does the mass market do to things? Diluting it, so everybody can be the audience. Just look at mass market anime like Pokemon, One Piece, Dragon Ball, etc. We don't need more of that. I wish for more anime aiming at a hardcore audience.


...Devilman Crybaby.

If anything, Netflix still thinks it’s the 80’s and anime = porn.


This is what i think also when i watch Devilman crybaby i was like what the hell is this,its like a 80's porn anime where its sex,drugs,blood and gore and did i mention sex and lets not start with the art good god to even compare it to an 80's anime is an insult the story was okay i guess but after i finish the series i was wondering what the hell i just watch lol.The thing that bothers me the most is that what the Japanese think westerners would like or is it what Netflix wanted?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:00 pm Reply with quote
From my "NEWS: B: The Beginning Anime's New Trailer Previews Theme Song" post:
"Allow at least 2 anime titles to be weekly streams. Those 2 series get a weekly simuldub the same week that their respective 3rd subbed epi. debuts. The seasonal anime lineup is open to most territories simultaneously. That is, barring certain territories blocking Netflix, Territory B gets the epi. within 36 hours of Territory A getting it. When NF has started doing all these points for each season, I will have more respect for their decisions on streaming anime that are Netflix-first licenses."

While we are at it, perhaps NF can help pour some funds into Studipolis, Bang Zoom!, NYAV Post, and New Generation Pictures getting more resources for a higher output. When it comes to the dub output, suppose that each season at 12 get simuldubs. Have at least 6 be Funi-dubbed and the rest go to L.A. The stipulation is that the L.A. dubs meet the requirements of my above quote.

G S Palmer said, "I don't mind Netflix making actual anime originals like Devilman Crybaby (which was fantastic)". Kind of a technical thing here, that show was adapted from an old manga. A case of a Netflix co-produced isoriginal anime in the sense it is not an adaptation of a prior work is the upcoming B: The Beginning.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:28 pm Reply with quote
relyat08 wrote:
snip[/quote] You make an excellent point. But I wasn't saying what they will do, I was just commenting on the scenario that was mentioned.
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