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INTEREST: Crunchyroll Announces the Nominees for Its 2nd Annual Anime Awards

As long as they make good nominations such that most people find them to be reasonable choices for the best in their respective category, and not just most popular, I don't have an issue with the system

Last years Anime awards show was a total sham and a complete mockery of the entire Anime community with yaoi on ice winning is just about every category so hopefully this year Crunchyroll takes things a hell of a lot more seriously.

@Chrono1000 Overall, I prefer critics choosing the nominees than the general population as it lends the vote a critical imprimatur so it doesn't seems as much of a pure popularity contest. I'm not convinced a method that gives a good chance of Boruto or Black Clover being one of the nominees for best of the year is obviously superior to having critics narrow it down. I'm not sure if they will do it this year, but last year they did allow write ins, which might mitigate that line of criticism. Letting people vote on the winner makes the result more democratic and less like critics sending down the word on what is the best anime from on high. I think the method they have chosen strikes the best balance between critic and popular opinion.

As we can see from this thread, though, that goal did not, and probably could not, happen. Most of the posts in here are "this list sucks because they included X and/or didn't include Y." I doubt you could make the list seem reasonable to everyone unless you put every possible anime and character on it, and then they'd complain that it's too long. The only winning move is not to play.

Which brings me back to wondering what the point of this sort of contest even is. Presumably it's one part gotta-have-a-winner-ism and one part publicity stunt... much like "real" Oscars-style awards shows.

I find critics are generally out of touch with both the medium they critique as well as its fanbase at best, and antagonistic and anti-consumer to the point of attempting to be the controlling authoritive voice of the people at worst.

For example, the manga category feels like it was made by someone completely out of touch with what manga fans are currently reading, and trying to nudge the voting in a very specific direction.

Pierrot. wrote:

How the hell did Fate/Apocrypha not make it in Best Animation category but My Hero Academia did? Edit: They even included A Silent Voice? They can't be serious. How is that fair for the other TV series listed there?

Because Fate/Apocrypha doesn't deserve Best Animation when its animation was subpar for most of the series.

zrnzle500 wrote:

As long as they make good nominations such that most people find them to be reasonable choices for the best in their respective category, and not just most popular, I don't have an issue with the system

As we can see from this thread, though, that goal did not, and probably could not, happen. Most of the posts in here are "this list sucks because they included X and/or didn't include Y." I doubt you could make the list seem reasonable to everyone unless you put every possible anime and character on it, and then they'd complain that it's too long. The only winning move is not to play.

Which brings me back to wondering what the point of this sort of contest even is. Presumably it's one part gotta-have-a-winner-ism and one part publicity stunt... much like "real" Oscars-style awards shows.

zrnzle500 wrote:

Obviously as an awards show and in light of last year’s results, this year’s results will have to be taken with a grain of salt, as it is ultimately a popularity contest.

Maybe they should try doing it the other way around--nominate the top ~5 by mass vote, and then have the judges pick out of those options. Then the popular shows would get some recognition but wouldn't just win across the board (in this case I predict My Hero Academia will win in every category it's nominated for).

For example, the manga category feels like it was made by someone completely out of touch with what manga fans are currently reading, and trying to nudge the voting in a very specific direction. The only remotely popular title on that list is Dungeon Meshi, but for that to be present over the dozens of more relevent, beloved, and popular titles definately raises eyebrows, to say nothing of the other nominees.

@harminia Why would they have picked a nominee based on popularity? That would have been pretty dumb. I assume they picked the show they thought had the best quality for each category based on a consensus between the judges.

The first thought that popped into my mind is why isn't Attack on Titian (Season 2) in Best Anime category, but then after reading the comments no one else shares my sentiment. I guess I'm the only one that thinks that.

Because popular can equal good, but in a different way. Like, if a show is popular, that means a lot of people like it and think it's "good". Shouldn't that mean it should be up for nomination? If this was a few years ago, would Naruto have been nominated?
Like, people like Dragon Ball Super. Should it have been nominated? It's not on the level of other stories in terms of writing, animation etc, but people enjoy it and it's a good anime because of that. Last year, was YOI in because it was popular or because it was deemed a good show all around?
Like how at American awards, sometimes the artsy film that may be better gets passed for the blockbuster film that made more money.

It's like, not exactly popularity, but sort of is? I guess like, do they pick mainstream, successful shows that have a big fanbase, or smaller, artsier shows that have a little fanbase but is a better work. It sort of seems unclear to me which way the judges were going. Like, it seems to be towards the artsy stuff but sometimes it veers towards the mainstreamier stuff.

ugh, not sure if I'm making sense