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Shouji
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:15 am
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I don't seem to hear much about it on here, but I feel of all the animes i've watched, Wolf's Rain takes the cake as the greatest anime created. It had a great and diverse cast of characters, and the story was amazingly deep and complex, with an ending so depressing that it had my hitting the tissues like a cry baby.
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marie-antoinette
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:39 am
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There's definitely a fair number of Wolf's Rain fans coming around, if you keep an eye out you'll definitely see it mentioned in general discussion and it has even had a few threads devoted just to it.
It definitely ranks up there as one of my favourite series. Especially the ending, which is one of the few things I've rated as a masterpiece here.
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Kelly
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:03 am
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I don't rank it quite as highly as you, Shouji, but you can definitely count me among Wolf's Rain fans. The artwork is gorgeous, the relationships among the characters are wonderful, and as both you and Marie have pointed out, it has one of the most gutwrenching set of final eps I've ever seen (don't ever watch it when you're already depressed) and is therefore likely to be held in high regard by angst fans for a long time to come.
Incidentally, it also has one of the best English dubs I've heard so far. I tend to watch it more often in the winter, perhaps because of the snow imagery near the end, so I'll be starting to pull it out again in another month or so.
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Randall Miyashiro
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:53 pm
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I love the general mood and elegance of many older Bones series like Wolf's Rain and Kurau. IF you like the more introspective slow pacing of Wolf's Rain and haven't seen Kurau I highly recommend it.
Many of their newer series like Fullmetal Alchemist, Mars Daybreak, and Eureka Seven seem more like flashy action shounen series. Although I love the new stuff too, they don't stir my emotions as much as the older shows.
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Craeyst Raygal
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:19 pm
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I enjoyed the show, and I will say that it has one of the most compelling examples of a dystopian future in anime, but I hesitate to call it a masterpiece.
Honestly, I feel it underutilizes what would be a superb cast of characters. There's so much time in the series spent on the characters' observations and so little spent on their reactions. When the ending does come, it feels a little hollow. It's as if the show itself is trying to be distant and aloof from the audience.
Otherwise, the animation, the music, the character designs, the whole package was phenomeonal. It was just missing that little extra emotive spark for me.
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riccardo
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:12 pm
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I'm definately a Wolfs Rain fan, it was the first anime that truly had me crying. I kwept repeating "thats not FAIR" over and over again through tears for about 20 minutes!
Its not my favourite anime ever, but it is definately top 10, the vivid backdrop, believable yet totally unbelievable characters and complex, adult storyline that really grabbed me, as it was one of the first anime I'd watched and didn't know stuff like that was out there.
Wolfs Rain also begun my obsession with Crispin Freeman characters!
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RoseWhip
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:27 pm
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I too am a devotee of Wolf's Rain. Probably the biggest reason I like it so much, apart from the gorgeous animation and character designs, is the fact that the ending (the OVA one) is so open ended. I know this is what bugs a lot of people about the series, but I appreciated the way it was left up to the viewer to decide what really happened. Did the wolves get reincarnated only to begin their journey all over again? Or is it that being reincarnated as humans was Paradise all along? It's up to you to interpret it.
Did I mention Yoko Kanno's amazing soundtrack? I think Wolf's Rain is what turned me into a Maaya Sakamoto fan
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Shouji
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:43 pm
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Well i'm certainly glad theres a handful of people who enjoy it. The interpretation I agree with (not by me) is...
The main objective of all the wolves was to find Paradise. However, Paradise is more like a process. It is nothing more than the world being born over and over until it can finally be born without any evil from the world before to taint it. I guess you could refer to that world which is free of evil from the previous world as being the True Paradise. If you pay attention to what Lord Darcia says during the last showdown with Kiba, he tells him something along the lines of "I will not let this world be reborn" or something like that.
In the end, all the wolves die, then Kiba & Cheza's blood mixes together. This activates the process of Earth being reborn. That is why the snow finally begins to melt, flowers begin to bloom, and animals begin to roam the Earth. However, they were unsuccessful in creating a True Paradise, because an evil from the dying world found its way into the new one, which will eventually lead to the corruption of the new world. That evil was Darcia's eye. After everything has bloomed and formed in the new Earth, you can see the eye in a pond, and its evil seeps out and slowly spreads, tainting the flowers nearby.
So, in the new world, everyone has come back to life, because everything is reborn. But just like the world before, this new world that the wolves are in will eventually die out, and an apocalyptic snow and wars will ravage it, just like in the beginning in the series. Then once again, our heroes will find themselves on a mission to "find Paradise" by following the "scent of the lunar flowers". This is what Cheza meant when she said she would "wait in Paradise" for Kiba and that he must "find her" so that they may continue to search for Paradise. Also, when they finally open the True Paradise, a pure world, she will be waiting there for him as well. In the reborn world, she is no longer a girl but takes on her "true" form, a simple lunar flower. That's why in the end, Kiba pauses and starts running, because he senses her and smells her.
So, it's a cycle that repeats itself, over and over. This is why Kiba feels like he's known Cheza before, because he has. This is also why everyone feels connected in some way, because all of the wolves have existed in the world before. Afterall, only the wolves are able to open the True Paradise. So, until the world can finally be reborn without anything to taint or corrupt it, until they can finally "do it right", they'll have to keep searching for Paradise.
That is what Kiba meant by his last lines:
"There is nothing at the end of this world... No matter how far you go the same path lies ahead of you..."
It was a great ending and quite sad when you really think about what it means. It seems like their mission is futile, but I think what the anime is trying to teach is that as long as everyone truly believes and is willing and able to do whatever it takes, there is hope.
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Banshou
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:15 pm
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There's a song from the series that I can't find anywhere...
It's that haunting melody right before the climax of the series;
Before the planet freezes over, starting right before Darsha's dialog and leading up to right before his "death?"...
I recently thought that it was the beginning of "Heaven's not Enough" played in reverse, but I recently found that to be untrue...
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BrothersElric
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:26 pm
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Oh, I absolutely adore Wolf's Rain! Definitely a masterpiece in my book, and up there as one of my top 10 favorites.
Just about everything about that series, the depth of the characters and the deep, metaphorical meaning behind the themes of the series, the stellar animation quallity, not to mention just how incredibly emotionally powerful this series is (even if the ending is quite depressing, there is indeed something good that comes out of it all. ), I just love it all! And anyone who hasn't seen the dub version, you absolutely must! Johnny Young Bosch puts on a marvelous performance as Kiba.
Probably the only complaint I have about it though are the 4 recap episodes (I did eventually hear why they had to be done though) and how slow paced it was. But even then, I usually don't really mind how slow paced something is so long as it has a lot of other redeeming qualities, and this series had that in spades.
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Shouji
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:32 pm
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Wasn't the recaps due to a SARs outbreak?
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RoseWhip
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:05 pm
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Banshou wrote: | There's a song from the series that I can't find anywhere...
It's that haunting melody right before the climax of the series;
Before the planet freezes over, starting right before Darsha's dialog and leading up to right before his "death?"...
I recently thought that it was the beginning of "Heaven's not Enough" played in reverse, but I recently found that to be untrue... |
I'm pretty sure that song you're talking about is called "Rakuen". It's on the 1st soundtrack, the second song. It's one of my favorite songs in Wolf's Rain, it really proves what an amazing composer Yoko Kanno is
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BrothersElric
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:23 pm
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Shouji wrote: | Wasn't the recaps due to a SARs outbreak? |
I actually heard it had something to do with the studio getting caught in an earthquake or something. There's probably various versions of it out there though.
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marie-antoinette
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:10 pm
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SARS was one of the rumored reasons for it, but there was never any official confirmation of why there are four back-to-back recaps and so nothing has gone beyond rumor status.
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Banshou
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:01 am
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RoseWhip wrote: |
Banshou wrote: | There's a song from the series that I can't find anywhere...
It's that haunting melody right before the climax of the series;
Before the planet freezes over, starting right before Darsha's dialog and leading up to right before his "death?"...
I recently thought that it was the beginning of "Heaven's not Enough" played in reverse, but I recently found that to be untrue... |
I'm pretty sure that song you're talking about is called "Rakuen". It's on the 1st soundtrack, the second song. It's one of my favorite songs in Wolf's Rain, it really proves what an amazing composer Yoko Kanno is |
I own both OSTs so I know what you're talking about; it's not "Rakuen" but the BGM before that one...
Y'know, the song that's playing at the point where Darsha has that really creepy insane looking expression right before he Kiba have their final fight; it's about ten minutes into the episode...
Also, I think the song you're thinking of is actually "go to 'rakuen'" from the second OST...
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