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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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I wanted to bring the issue up of the Basalisk Ad because the ad itself is a giant spoiler. I know this ad is hardly new at all but I just noticed the spoiler aspect tonight as it never clicked til now for some reason. I'm also going to spoiler the rest of my post for those who might read this and haven't noticed what I have.
spoiler[The ad is question is the Basalisk box set flash ad that is at the top of the screen at times. The spoiler part is it says "Click here To See Them Die." It then shows a picture of a big group of characters from the show who actually do die. Every single one of them. This may be just me being nit picky but the ad is giving away HUGE spoiler information and showing damn near all the main cast that do die during the show. Just thought I'd mention it.] [Corrected title spelling ~Zalis] |
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fighterholic
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Well, for the most part, spoiler[everybody DOES DIE in the show. That's how the storyline is told.] |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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Yes that is true fighter but that's not exactly something you'd go shouting about right? I mean if you knew that then why watch the show?
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abunai
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"September 21, 1945... that was the night I died.”
Opening lines of one of the best anime ever. Of course, once you know the main character is going to die, it's pointless to watch it.... right? - abunai |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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It's Funimation's ad. We didn't design it. If you have a problem with it, email Funimation.
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naruto fan 09812
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I don't get how this spoil the anime for you. This is the same thing when you read manga and then watch the anime version. You know what is going to happen so what the difference.
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ikillchicken
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Geez guys. he's just pointing out that it is a spoiler. If you don't think its a big deal just say so, but obviously it is a spoiler. That doesn't make it worthless to watch the anime, but ideally you would rather not have any information on what happens right?
That said, This seems pretty minor. I think it seems like more of a spoiler if you're familiar with Basilisk already and know that spoiler[all of those character do die. otherwise you would probably not take it so literally to mean that every one of those characters dies.] Also, Zac: Sure Funi designs the ad, but I would imagine ANN does have at least some say on what ads they post do they not? |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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For many yes it would be pointless. For many people knowing such a huge spoiler from the start would dampen and make their viewing experience not as favorable then what it could have been. I'm not even saying the ad personally bothers me. I simply brought it up because it is a giant spoiler and I thought it was worth mentioning.
I'm not dumb Zac, I know who made the ad. I never said you guys did so please don't patronize me if that's what you're doing. You guys (admins) however do have control over which ads get allowed to be viewed and placed here though. I was simply bringing up the ad because I felt it could be seen as a huge spoiler. I was again not making a big deal of it. Simply bringing it up, that's all. And the last time I checked we were told to bring up issues with ads if we had a concern or question.
This has not changed suddenly has it?
What you think and what others think are not the same thing. So while this may be your opinion plenty of others may not share it or agree with it. And just to go with your specific example anime and manga can vary enough on a given title that little of each medium is close to the other. Not to mention different endings like with Chrono Crusade for example. So simply reading the manga does not guarantee you ruined your anime experience or vice versa. Plus many won't read/watch the other medium while they are going through the manga or anime. I also can't help but notice how defensive or uptight you guys are getting. It was a simple ad I thought could be seen as a spoiler so I brought it up. That's all there is to it. There is no hidden agenda here. I simply brought it up since Tempest said is we had concerns to do just that. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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If it doesn't mean anything at all to you and you're just being pedantic, why bother? Again, we didn't design the ad. Funimation has been running that "click to watch us die" thing for a long while now, even before the box set came out, on this and many many other websites. You're months late on even complaining about it, and now after bitching about it - and implying that somehow it's ANN management that's asleep on the job, approving inappropriate and offensive ads - you're going on about how we're apparently not supposed to take what you say as a serious complaint, just that "you're bringing it up"? For what purpose, then? Just to be a pain about it? Tempest sometimes brings down ads due to reader complaint for good reason - normally because this is a work-safe website, and images that cross the established line are removed, within reason. Not because you have some bizarro "ethical" problem with ad-sanctioned "spoilers" for a cartoon that's aired on TV in its entirety multiple times and has been available on DVD for months and months now. |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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I already said why I bothered Zac. Because it is in itself a huge spoiler and I simply thought it was worth mentioning as some may find it ruins their experience of the show. Do I? No. But as I told narutofan not everyone thinks like him, nor do they think like me. So I simply mentioned it as I thought some would have an issue with it. Nothing more to it then that. As for the time factor, sorry. I simply ignore most of the ads day to day personally. Others don't however so again that's why I said something. I also never said one word about the staff being asleep on the job nor implied that Zac so please don't assume things or put words in my mouth. I did not once insinuate anything of the sort nor say anything remotely close to it. I don't see how you could possibly try and say anything of the sort simply because I said an ad was a spoiler. As for taking my comment itself seriously. I'm not saying you should nor am I saying you shouldn't. I honestly don't care. I'm not going to waste my time worrying if you will or won't. I'm not presuming to tell you how to take it at all, unless you'd prefer I do that and demand the staff do something right now. I simply brought the subject up nothing more and nothing less Zac. Whether or not the comment or issue is taken seriously is not in my control now is it? That is for you to decide so I'm not going to say you should or shouldn't take me seriously. My goal was simply to post the concern and let you make up your own damn mind. Either you give it weight or you don't.
This was not some bizarro ethical problem so stop turning it into something more then it was. It was nothing more then a simple concern I had. I voiced it and that was it. There was not any insults to the staff. There was no "ethical problem" or problem with the site. Just one single simple issue and that's it. Why you wanna turn it into something more is beyond me. All you had to do was simply say "we don't think it's a problem" or "we do think it's a problem." That's it.Why you and others seem to want to make this into something more and look more into it then is necessary is beyond me. Last edited by Redbeard 101 on Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:11 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Tempest
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Hasn't changed. But it doesn't mean I'll remove every ad that people have problems with. I'll merely look into every ad. In this case, what's shown isn't really a spoiler, no more so than the example that Abunai gave from Grave of the Fireflies is a spoiler. And regardless of whether it is a spoiler, there's no surprise as to what you're going to see when you click on the ad. If you don't want to find out who dies, why would you click on "click here to see them die." Furthermore, if Funimation decides to spoil their own shows (if you still consider this a spoiler) as part of their marketing, that's their decision to make. Perhaps, as with Grave of the Fireflies, the fact that they die isn't meant to be a given from the start, and how they die isn't what's important either, but how they get to the point in which they die... Basilisk is a tragedy, much like any Shakespearean tragedy, it's a given that the protagonists all die. That's not a spoiler. Although the anime and manga do a piss poor job of communicating it, The Kouga Ninja Scrolls is a story about tragic relationships, how the various characters die is of little importance to the core story. -t -t Last edited by Tempest on Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:18 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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That's all that I expected Tempest. I didn't once say it HAD to be changed, or this is just an outrage, or the staff is asleep on the job. I simply felt it was a concern so I voiced it so you or others would look into it and make up your own minds about it. That's it. |
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naruto fan 09812
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I don't see why you are making a federal case about this ad. And like others have already said why would you click on an ad where it's said see everyone die. That common sense to don't click on the ad if you didn't want some thing to be spoil for you. Instead of making a entire thread about this. You could PM one of the admins. No offense but it make you sound like a drama queen. When in fact it's your mistake that cause the show to be spoiled.
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