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shawnek
Accredited Retailer
 Posts: 786 Location: Right Stuf - www.rightstuf.com - Iowa |
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We have a number of lighter hentai titles, such as G-Taste, F3, Mail Order Maiden, and so forth. I will tell you, though, that the demand is higher for the really nasty stuff. |
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shawnek
Accredited Retailer
Posts: 786 Location: Right Stuf - www.rightstuf.com - Iowa |
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Anime fans realize that this type of action damages the industry, I believe. We're not targeting individual fans, just the sites which are outright bootlegging our material. |
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shawnek
Accredited Retailer
Posts: 786 Location: Right Stuf - www.rightstuf.com - Iowa |
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I'm not looking to get involved with your squabble, but the fact is that a royalty is paid on every copy of every title sold on every license out there. The first certain number of units may be covered by an "advance" in which the licensee pre-pays (in advance) royalties on units that aren't even sold yet - but there is an accounting to be made of every unit shipped and sold. Hope this is of assistance. |
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NezuChiza
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Thank you for providing some info to show I was wrong rather than taking the route another did and just being condescending and insulting. I appreciate it. I was unaware of the residuals that were sometimes paid back, and it's nice to see someone in the know give a REAL response as opposed to "You don't work in the industry, so you can't POSSIBLY know anything" response. 
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Craeyst Raygal
 Posts: 1383 Location: In the garage, beneath a 1970 MGB GT. |
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This actually isn't a problem limited to the animated pornography industry, either.
Porn companies have been bleeding away capital because of the internet. There are whole sites devoted to "archiving" older VHS pornos for download, stuff starring John Holmes, Nina Hartley, and other such well-knowns. Long story behind my knowledge on this particular subject, but the fact of the matter is that illegal downloads have dried up the porn industry.... .... and considering porn is a niche media - just like anime - watching its decline should be heads up for us as well. |
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Paploo
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Ooops.... guess I got it confused with JapanAnime. Good to see you providing info to readers Shawne. |
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Vuwazy
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This fight they're fighting could be a very hard one.
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Tyrenol
Posts: 398 Location: Northern California |
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I'm 32 years of age. I live alone. And I don't make such a big deal about the fact that I'm buying and collecting animated porn. 
It's just that adult anime is the last honest sub-industry of the mainstream anime industry. Instead of having to watch blue-balling shows like Zero no Tsukaima et al, I can watch some guy actually get lucky during the first episode. People NEED to put their money back into something they like as oppose to relying on some internet sites for their fix. All bad news about capitalism asides, it works. And there's an incredibly painful sting when it doesn't. |
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Hon'ya-chan
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And this is what's preplexing me. I'm currently scanning thru 3 "Major" Torrent sites, and I see stuff ranging from futanari to guro to...well, stuff that isn't gonzo or your basic porn. And alot of it isn't even licensed by Critical Mass or Kitty!! I mean, where is the "enforcement" that these guys are claiming? How did that saying go...Pissing in an Ocean of Piss? |
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ikillchicken
 Posts: 7272 Location: Vancouver |
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Thats excellent. I think this is what companies need to do. Targeting fans is at best going to increase the fear of getting caught but wont comeclose to stopping downloads. As long as downloads are available people will use em. Cutting them off at the source will have the most impact. |
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Kruszer
 Posts: 7994 Location: Minnesota, USA |
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Yes I'm aware of that I've bought several titles from Rightstuff (Although it's rare for me to buy or watch porn, so I only own 10 titles personally, a mere fraction of my overall DVD Collection). Sometimes it's easy to figure out the ones I'd like when I am so inclined, sometimes it isn't. It's hard to judge a DVD by it's cover, and offen the same can be said for a plot description. I've had some mixed luck finding titles. |
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zrdb
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Let's see-shawnek=must be Shawne Kleckner, let me tell ya one thing-one time I found and downloaded an iso image of Dragon Pink-I'll tell you there's no way I'd ever have purchased it. Hentai is a niche genre-for guys to w**K off in the privacy of what ever.
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CCSYueh
 Posts: 2707 Location: San Diego, CA |
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If you're familiar with the concept of vanity press, that's where a lot of yaoi anime seems to fall. I paid $50 for a vanity press family history someone in the family published. It seems a lot of it is the publisher funds it & makes a limited amount so we get 1 or 2 eps. Because most are straight to video, there's no built-in profit (like the Hollywood blockbuster which made millions during its theater run & the dvd releas is just icing on the cake. Disney cab offer PotC3 for a cheap price because it made a lot during its theater run. My teen had to have the Producers the week it was released & the best price I could do was $20, much more than the &12-$14 I could find bigger titles on sale their premiere week for) SO Libre or Biblos or whoever commisions the dvd figures their cost of making it & makes up a certain amount of copies they figure they can sell & sets the price accordingly. And thus also the downloaders claim that "Japanese see it for free on tv" doesn't apply to a lot of this stuff. |
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tygerchickchibi
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Who the hell said that? >.> I think I missed that part. I doubt they show Any type of adult oriented content on public television. |
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
 Posts: 9902 Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan, ROC |
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Look, dude, what I knew were basically the same as Shawne said:
I didn't tell you the details because I didn't have consent from either side of contract signers; that's something called politeness and decency, and you lacked both. However, since Shawne has disclosed it I think it's not a secret anymore. When overseas licensees want to license a title from Japanese license holder(s), a "safety deposit / royalties-in-advance" has to be paid for a set number of units sold (this is often the number of first press/print), as well as royalties set for each additional unit sold beyond that set point. When several licensees compete for the same hot title, it is usually not the percentage of royalties that differs, but the number of "guaranteed to be sold" units. There were many examples of overestimation -- again, I'm not going to provide examples for this will name many names. If said title sells well beyond the set number then Japanese license holder can continue receiving cash flowing in. On the other hand, if the title is not as popular as overseas licensees had expected, they have to find ways to cover the losses due to their overestimation, for the "safety deposit" shall not be returned.
Tell me why you chose to believe what Shawne said. It is because he is the head of TRSI, right? So in the end you betrayed your own words. Last edited by dormcat on Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:37 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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