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Rensie
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And again is not your business what people do there, is a girl want perform JK good for her. Japanese censor western media? Who cares? Westerners do the same daily basis, with anime, manga and videogames. What i don't like is that foreigners pressure other countries to do what they think is good or not based on their morals, this is absolutely ridiculous. |
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littlegreenwolf
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I dunno if it's Westerner's pushing their morals. I think it's more like trying to tidy up their image for the Olympics they're about to host. As far as I know all the laws have been voluntary with nothing to do with Foreigners.
But I don't follow Japanese politics too much, so what do I know. |
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Actar
Posts: 1074 Location: Singapore |
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You're right. She shouldn't have been arrested precisely because "It aint hurting anyone". However, from what I understand, her arrest and the tolerance of lolicon manga aren't entirely inconsistent by Japanese standards.
From my own research. |
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Rensie
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Well, Dan kanemitsu pointed out several articles where foreigners pressure japan government to ban their own media and art because it offend the western bigotry sensibilities. I trust Kanemtsu and Akamatsu since they live there and know better that us what's going on, their concern are legit. Olympics are just another huge factor in this trend to sanitize the country. I'm really worry about free speech in Japan and the increase of censorhip in these last years, something that was very valuable and strong in the japanese culture but now at risk (the last TPP don't help at all and show how cowards and spineless japanese politicians are). |
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Cptn_Taylor
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Sure, delusion among fans is strong. Adult men that buy magazines that depict 8-9 year olds preferably in sexy poses. This kind of thing is not better than molestation, it's as disgusting. And I wish laws would make it illegal/criminal to create such magazines. |
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Rensie
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If you don't like something you have the freedom not to buy or support it, while if i want to read it i have all the rights to do so, and this is valid for all the form of art. Don't be so dense and selfish. |
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Cptn_Taylor
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No you don't have all the rights to do so. If you want absolute freedom go live in a cave as a savage and submit yourself to the laws of nature. But as as long as you live in a civilised society personal freedom is counterbalanced with the needs of society as a whole. You might like torturing animals that doesn't mean that society has to condone your perversion in the matter or even indulge/facilitate such acts. As so it is with the sexualization of children (real or drawn). I have no problem with hentai manga depicting "adult" looking women/men. I do have a problem with manga or magazines depecting child like characters for the only purpose of making adult men and or women masturbate. It is not an acceptable form of entertainment. And society should in no way condone, or make it acceptable to do such things. It it rubs you the wrong way tough luck. |
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Juno016
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He/She's made way more trips than you. I've made way more trips than you. We've both made way more trips to way more places than you. Yes, people read them everywhere. I've seen it myself. But start asking around if people read manga. It's not as rare as in the U.S. at all, but even when I do find people, they tend to stick to general mainstream unless they're the even more rare (and usually less sociable) otaku type. It's just... more likely you'll see someone reading it out of the comfort of their home, as far as my experience takes it. However, while I like and appreciate the fact that it's more accepted in public than in the U.S. (where I live, as least), it's not exactly a social norm either. Just a personal hobby most people keep to themselves. It's not uncommon to see someone reading a light novel on a train or bus, but you'll almost never see it without a bookcover meant to cover the book's title and cover image. For the JK topic, it's not as simple as "They want to--let them." They're nearing adulthood and I do think they deserve the right to freedom to start choosing their future path. But it's not really a promising... path in life. Often times, they choose to do so on a needy basis. They want or need money, and they're often fit for the role. For some, it becomes habit. For some, it goes beyond that and really affects their futures drastically. But what REALLY matters is how well they're manipulated into it. We're not just talking about consent and independence. We're talking about actual corruption in the industry that does what it can to take advantage of vulnerable people, young or not. I'm not even against the idea of young girls dating older men, even for sex. But I'd rather cultivate a system that respects both parties as much as possible and has safeguards in place. Maybe not a system, but a culture. And frankly, what they have now has no place being the standard. It's downright awful and is similar to the Western porn industry in how many of its servicewomen are treated. It doesn't always hurt everyone, but there are real people involved whose lives are being discarded way too easily here. Just a few too many. |
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ItAintEazy
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isn't "JK" supposed to be "EK" as in "enjo kousai" or compensated dating?
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dcmc
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then would you be agree to a laws that would make it illegal to own a gun/weapon? like u said personal freedom need to be sacrificed for the society.
since theres more mass shooting case happen in US than child abuse in japan. yet even civilised society wouldn't let those laws be passed.sigh |
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Tempest
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EK is one of many aspects of JK. |
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Rederoin
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That contradicts each other. |
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Tempest
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It's a combination of international organizations applying pressure, self-censorship because Japan wants to look good for the olympics, and Japanese politicians who truly support the cause of censoring lollicon. -t Last edited by Tempest on Sat Dec 05, 2015 8:34 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Tempest
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If a 14 year old wants to have sex for money, good for her ? The law shouldn't try to protect her from exploitation by adults, and her own lack of maturity and ability to make the right decisions? |
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Rederoin
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Using an example of Japan is not free does not exactly change how banning hentia is not anti-freedom. To top it off, you're talking about censorship laws that got introduced thanks to the U.S. |
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