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prime_pm
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So will this be adapted from the original movie where the main bad guy tried to become a woman?
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KitKat1721
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Earlier reports indicated they might be adapting the main story from Stand Alone Complex's first season.
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Kougeru
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The only similar I found in the description I found was that the Laughing Man exists in the story. It specified he's the LEADER of a terrorist organization....so they seem to be changing the story greatly.
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MagusGuardian
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I had some hope for this movie hell I would've been ok with making the cast and crew watch the ghost in the shell movies or even stand alone complex but Nope dreamworks ya fucked up
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jdnation
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"The story follows the exploits of a member of a covert ops unit of the Japanese National Public Safety Commission that specializes in fighting technology-related crime."
Is that Variety describing the general franchise, or does the film actually take place in Japan or involves the Japanese in this instance? |
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residentgrigo
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I get why they would go with The Laughing Man (or pay lip service to the concept) due to the prominence of anonymous, Mr.Robot and all that but i care less now i guess.
Not that cared at any point during the decade long crawl. I wonder how many creators will be involved in the residual process after such a long time.
https://deadline.com/2015/11/sam-riley-in-talks-ghost-in-the-shell-scarlett-johansson-dreamworks-paramount-lily-james-brie-larson-1201630113/ |
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anddo
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Is this supposed to be the Laughing Man? Because I'm laughing at the casting choice.
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Ryu Shoji
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I find it interesting that we have a casting for Batou and even The Laughing Man, yet we don't even have a name for Scarlet Johansson's character. I wonder if DreamWorks are deliberately keeping that close due to the inevitable backlash when we find out she isn't called "Motoko Kusanagi"?
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enurtsol
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From the government's POV, he is a terrorist.
Might as well change the name if her body is gonna look like a Western woman. |
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Doodleboy
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Story is still set in japan and no asian actors so far.
And the synopsis they posted on the site with the Batou announcement sounds terrible... |
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NearEasternerJ1
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You mean "no Japanese actors" right? Getting sick and tired of the homogenizing of the Asian peoples. Stop referring to the continental and start referring to the national. I.E, Japanese/Japanese-Americans. Would you want a Yemeni-Arab to play a character? They're "Asian" technically. Would you want a guy called "Sanjay Vishnu" or whatever to play a character? He'd be "Asian" too. Chinese, Japanese (Ryukyu count as well) and Korean peoples generally don't look the same in the first place. It's almost impossible to *not* tell the difference between Chinese and Japanese people. Asians/Asian-Americans are diverse people. It's time to campaign for Japanese actors. Japanese people don't even like it when Americans use Chinese or Koreans to play Japanese characters. |
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R315r4z0r
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There are so many ways you can go into adapting work like this. It can even be an original story. In fact, that's what I was hoping for. They are given this whole world, rich with lore and content... and they have to overwrite things that have already been done. Why paint yourself into a corner? Just make an original story.
What bugs me though is that these film makers have a hard on for blatantly changing things that don't have to be changed and flip the whole world on it's head. It's like they have a whole empty parking lot available.. and yet they have to double park right in front of your car. Why is Section 9 now a security division of a robotics company? Aren't they just generally public security? Doesn't that limit the sorts of things they can do as far as law enforcement goes? What happened to special authority? Why is The Laughing Man being given a goal like that? How is he "leading" these crimes? Does that not completely contradict the interpretation of a 'stand-alone-complex?' Granted, it's just a generic description of the plot. So I'm sure it's hardly accurate. But I'd feel much more comfortable if they didn't involve major players from things that were already adapted. All they needed to do was make a plot involving Section 9. There's no need to involve the Laughing Man... :\ |
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leafy sea dragon
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He kind of makes me think of a 007 villain. I wonder if that's how they're going to depict him.
Odds are Variety magazine doesn't know either, and this is what the writer was able to grab quickly looking it up online.
I am an Asian-American, and I honestly don't care if I'm referred to by my parents' country of origin or by their continent of origin. Margaret Cho had an entire stand-up routine about the difficulty telling people of different parts of east Asia apart, and frankly, I can agree with her wholeheartedly--it is hard for me to tell. People in east Asia tend to move and migrate around a lot, so the area is somewhat homogenized. If it's almost impossible to not tell the difference, you wouldn't have non-Asians calling all Asians "Chinese" or "Japanese."
The creative thumbprint. Your standing in Hollywood can go down if you make faithful adaptations, as you are seen by your peers as too submissive or lacking in creativity. (The exception is if you're already a walking money-printer and have made heavy adaptations of your own, like with Zack Snyder or James Cameron.) An adaptation that you aggressively make YOURS, if successful, can be shown off to executives and producers on a demo reel to say, "I was responsible for this." An adaptation that sticks too close, on the other hand, has a strong chance of being seen as "This is not actually your work; why are you showing it off?" (This same reason can prevent a script from getting greenlit too. I've seen it happen firsthand.) |
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Kadmos1
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I am in agreement. They could get at least use some of the many Japanese expats or Japanese Americans we have here. I don't care if the Japanese rights holders gave the nod for this, I would care more about the story being done right and I see getting actual Japanese actors/actresses for a GitS movie.
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jdnation
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I'm Asian too, technically from India.
I don't think it's a problem for a Pakistani to play and Indian guy any more than a Chinese person playing a Japanese person. Even white people have Brits playing Americans and Canadians playing Italians and vice versa. I'm more interested in the character portrayed than the precise ethnicity behind them. So if Motoko Kusanagi is a Japanese woman/android played by an actress that passes for a physical Japanese woman then that's fine by me. Someone even came up with a pretty unique point of view where in the era of GITS, there's nothing to say that synthetic cyborg bodies must necessarily represent a nation's ethnicity. It might even make sense in a way if Motoko's body could be manufactured abroad and could resemble a white woman. The only thing that's hers is her brain and her ghost. And if the body is only to be utilized for military purposes, then it doesn't matter the ethnicity. In fact if they played it smartly Motoko could possess multiple bodies just as she actually does that could pass for whatever ethnicity, while the identity of the original Motoko could be of Japanese origin. In the GITS world, there's no reason why a multi-ethnic cast and futuristic city could actually replace Japan. There are smart ways of compromising the material for Western audiences that can still play with interesting aspects of GITS. Does the world of this future, one where the boundaries of the net are vast, need to resemble the current world? Far more interesting is seeing the clash of civilization where the futuristic multi-ethnic world, now synthetic, erodes the cultures of the past and just as we question the meaning of humanity without a body, whether this is all a desirable thing. Missed opportunities all over the place. ---------- All that said I think that starting with the Laughing Man is a smart move. Obviously they're aiming at having a franchise here and there are many stories to draw from. The Oshii films content is something best left for a 'final chapter' where Motoko makes the final leap into the being she becomes. |
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