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Nagisa
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 5:03 pm
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Spoiler tags, PLEASE! Not everyone has seen the X TV series all the way through, and for an ending like that, it's best not to ruin it for them.
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spike_spiegel7
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:00 pm
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i think samurai x (oav)
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Carol Maxwell
Joined: 17 Oct 2003
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 8:54 pm
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I can't think of any really gory anime and such, but, I can think of a cartoon that are violent without blood and guts and gore. The famous Tom and Jerry. That show has be so violent it's funny. Tom always seems to step on rakes or hoes or various other yard care equipment. Or, when he gets kicked, he doesn't stop until he hits a wall. Or when he runs through a fence, he falls to pieces. And his scream. No one could replicate that....except if they recorded it or something. But, once I realised this, I'm like, cool! It's just a thought I had to say.
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Kidotai
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Location: one of those islands in the pacific
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 9:26 pm
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Pokemon.
Think about it....anti-social behavior....capturing and fighting small critters...Porygon...
*ducks the thrown objects*
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Carol Maxwell
Joined: 17 Oct 2003
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 9:34 pm
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Kidotai wrote: | Pokemon.
Think about it....anti-social behavior....capturing and fighting small critters...Porygon...
*ducks the thrown objects* |
Ah yes, another bloodless fighting one.
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liquad snake
Joined: 07 Dec 2003
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 9:56 pm
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Jin Roh the wolf brigade is realy violent. It was mane the same director who made Akira and ghost in the shell .
Witch I think are incredible. They are some of the best anime of all time.
In my humble opinion.
O and pokemon is the creation of the devil him self It must be stopt!
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Nagisa
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:47 pm
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Jin-Roh isn't all that violent. There are only a few scenes of violent content, and they take a back seat to everything else.
Of course, I'd say the violence in Rurouni Kenshin: Tsuioku-Hen is overshadowed by the story as well, but given how many people seem to consider it "the most violent anime of all time," I seem to be in the minority (one would think that for an anime to truly be considered "the most violent," the violent content would be its focus...and the violence in Kenshin sure as hell wasn't the focus there ).
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Iron Chef
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:57 pm
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Would you consider violence and gore to be different terms here?
Psychologically speaking, both Boogiepop Phantom and Now and Then, Here and There were both pretty violent, but not too gory. Heck, even SaiKano was pretty traumatic on my noodle.
On the other hand, Bio Hunter and BAOH were more or less gory for the sake of being gory. Ninja Scroll was close up there, too.
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Mou Kaoru
Joined: 17 Oct 2003
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 11:24 pm
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Nagisa wrote: | Of course, I'd say the violence in Rurouni Kenshin: Tsuioku-Hen is overshadowed by the story as well, but given how many people seem to consider it "the most violent anime of all time," I seem to be in the minority (one would think that for an anime to truly be considered "the most violent," the violent content would be its focus... |
I agree. Anime that focus on violence, such as those of the fighting genre, never really have much of a solid story. Now I could be wrong (and I probably am ), by all means correct me. But people think of violence in terms of blood, gore, getting beat to death, or body count (maybe). Shows such as Berserk, Ninja Scroll, or Fist of the North Star, just to name a few, are considered very violent because these shows had a little too much of those key factors. Most people would consider Tsuioku-Hen very violent mainly due to the fact of the amount of blood shed and how Kenshin acts upon his killings, if you know what I mean. But I wouldn't consider it THE most violent anime of all time. The story speaks for itself, and I thought it to be a beautiful anime, regardless of content. If anything, DBZ could be considered pretty violent because you see two guys beat the crap out of each other for 20+ episodes.
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LTGMars
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:20 am
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Ditto to what's been said. I would venture to say that Tsuiokuhen has "conventional violence". The violence portrayed is that one would normally expect for that time period and that calling (to be a hitokiri). Of course he's going to chop a few heads off... what makes it so seemingly violent is that, especially since most that've seen the OVA have seen the TV series, that level of violence is not expected from something in the Kenshin timeline, even if it is an OVA.
Nevertheless, that violence, as grotesque as it was, was appropriate and perhaps needed in order to show the true horror of Kenshin's past life. Those outlandishly violent scenes, as well as the ordeal with Tomoe, make us all the more compassionate towards the rurouni who has vowed never to kill again.
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eva05
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:28 pm
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liquad snake wrote: | Jin Roh the wolf brigade is realy violent. It was mane the same director who made Akira and ghost in the shell |
It is not the same director. Hiroyuki Okiura is an animation lead.
Jinroh was his first film as a director, which is a totally different set of responsiblities.
From what I understand, and this is what I've heard from some of the team invovled with the rewriting of the script, he was extremely dissatisfied with the project. I also understand the director has decided his experience was so bad on the project he decided to remain in the role of lead animator (which he had in GITS I believe) for future projects.
Jinroh is actually notorious for the number of rewrites it went through. I've heard as many as a dozen people made severe revisions to the screenplay while the film was being produced. I also know that the director was completely unsatisfied by the finished result, which is why there is no special edition of it available overseas.
I also didn't particularly find it very violent. Then again I didn't care for the movie so maybe I wasn't engaged enough to care...
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kamiboy
Joined: 29 Nov 2003
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:58 pm
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I’ll throw in my vote for First of the North Star. That movie has more dismembered body parts and exploding heads than you can shake a barrel full of dead monkeys at.
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Fenrir
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 1:11 pm
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Fist of the North Star and Berserk and quite Violent.
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syr
Joined: 09 Dec 2002
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:32 pm
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Kite was quite bloody. The uncut version anyway.
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Carol Maxwell
Joined: 17 Oct 2003
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 11:47 am
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Why does something HAVE to be bloody to be called violent?
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