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Porcupine
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People have the freedom to waste their money however they want however. So if a rape victim wants to waste money seeing a counselor, that's their choice. But counseling should never be mandatory (even though it is sometimes, usually only if laws have been severely broken, and even this is a stupid practice) since it is a quack art. People should never be forced to go to counseling. Especially not to "cure" something that is not even a sickness in the first place. Pedophilia is not a sickness. Even the 6-year old toddler version is not a sickness. It's just abnormal. It does not need to be cured. And the 15-year old girl version of pedophilia is even completely normal. Insisting that pedophilia, in any form, needs to be "cured" through counseling (or any other method) is like insisting that gays need to be cured from being gay. Or insisting that people who are ugly need to be cured from being ugly. Or that blacks need to be cured from being black. Or that Buddhists need to be cured and converted to Christianity. And sending a pedophile to "counseling" (a worthless practice) is not gonna be any more helpful than sending him to a quack who waves around a magic wand and claims to cure people through "magic".
Huh? This isn't true at all. That was ultrapostman's point I believe. He said that rape is very common in hentai, and it is. I can walk into ANY reputable video store in the USA such as Suncoast, and buy hentai rape DVDs. There is almost no video store in the USA that DOESN'T carry hentai rape DVDs. It doesn't matter if most people don't know what hentai is and don't watch anime. That wasn't what we were talking about. The point is that hentai rape is totally normal and widespread everywhere in the USA.
Lol, I can't believe it. It's the "never knew" argument. Hahaha!! If you like seeing children having sex, then you will probably know. And if you really do only start thinking that you might like this when you see loli-hentai for the first time, then probably you only like loli-hentai and/or anime-hentai, and not real-life-child-porn, so it's not a problem either. Anime hentai is certainly not the same thing as real-life-child-porn. And you've given us no specific titles that are "loli-hentai" so you can't make any general statements regarding such titles until you give us at least one concrete example for us to comment on.
Yeah this was all over the news just recently. I don't normally watch news but I noticed this. I never saw the whole interviews just clips as I was channel flipping. But I saw that right before I saw this thread, and it was both incidents together that prompted me to start speaking here. [Do NOT quadruple post just to respond to different people. Use the Edit button. ~Zalis] |
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Kanchide
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if I don't know them personally, I wouldn't want them around, when my children are alone period. If it's someone I trust I wouldn't have any problem. Anyway, it's not so probable for a neighbour pedo that I don't know personally to act on my childrens, because it's something it's bound to become know. That's why most pedo activities are internal to the family. Or are followed by the death of the children (as in many "normal" rapes). I repeat I wouldn't want anyone I don't trust around the childrens when they are alone. As a matter of fact, I know for sure that one of my dearest friends have or had somewhat an attraction to pre-pubescent girls. And as I talked for long with him on the argument, I know he's not going to hurt any children in any way or wouldn't want any to be hurt or molested (he is all for death penality or at least chemical castration for anyone who hurts a children). At least I know as much as my other more "normal" friends aren't going to rape or molest a girl they are attracted to. And no, I'm not going to ask him to go for counseling either. I think it's a pretty fine fellow. Better than many, in truth. I can't hope anyone is like him, but I wouldn't want to see him throw in the bunch.
what you are not understanding, it's that a pedo usually first discovers he has fantasies, and then he seeks contents, not the other way around. As a male usually first discovers an attraction to females and then seeks content. If they intend to act on their fantasies (still a very minority of pedos - I think less than serials killers) it's not watching content that is going to make a difference. I can agree to monitor them, but you can't arrest or fine them on this basis. |
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child of Lilith
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You’re right on all counts. No mater how much stuff someone watches it can never make them do anything they weren’t going to do on their own anyway. I would also like to thank you for sharing your personal experience with us. It is yet more proof that people with those types of feelings aren’t all monsters hell bent on hurting every child in site. It just goes to show you how a little understanding can make all the difference in the world.
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Porcupine
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But I don't think that applies in this scenario anyway. |
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Dargonxtc
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You've never heard of the The Anarchist Cookbook? |
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Porcupine
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Of course I have.
But it's not sold in stores is it? Hrmm, maybe it is. I did some checking just now. Well, it's legality been challenged or called into question numerous times but it seems to have been deemed legal in the end. Well, in that case, a video version of it should be legal too. But one doesn't exist, so who knows. And if a video version of "How to Make Bombs" or "How to Commit Crime and Get Away With It" is legal, then all the more reason that animated child-porn should be legal, so all the better for the pedophiles!! |
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mistress_reebi
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I really didn't want to bud in because this topic is old but read this article and tell me paedophiles have no motivation to harm a child: http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/249640 loli-hentai is the same as child porn and if it wasn't an escape for this guy, then how many children would be at risk of being molested? You still haven't answerd me when I asked what kind of message does that tell society if real child porn is banned but animated isn't. It's the same thing! If real child porn is banned because it's wrong to have sex with a child, then why is animated child porn available? It sends the same message. You know what, don't answer. This topic is too old. |
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HitokiriShadow
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Yep, one guy clearly represents every person just like him. Just like the Columbine duo represents all violent video game players.
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child of Lilith
Posts: 137 Location: Egg of Lilith ( the black moon) |
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Yes their mite be more bombings after the viewing of such material, however the viewing of that material will only give them the knowledge necessary to blow things up not the will to do it. Saying it’s the fault of the bomb making video is just another way for people to not have to take responsibility for their actions, we already have to many ways for people to do that already. |
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britannicamoore
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Your questions have been answered in various forms more times than I can count on my fingers and toes. I don't know if you just miss those sentences, or you've got wool over your eyes. I'll repeat it for you: It sends the message that pixels can't hurt you. You can hurt someone however. People make thier own choices and pixels, drawings, video games don't influence that. The once person who does something wrong doesn't account for the world.
No its not. One is real live breathing childern. The other is some frames someone drew in a studio. Because it doesn't break the law- real kids aren't being sexed up in the hentai so its not of concern. No it doesn't. I prefer to repeat until the point gets across. If the topic was too old you wouldn't have bothered to reply to it. BTW the article proves nothing- it says child porn but it doesn't say animated. Real child porn is illegal. Your personal opinions aside your "facts" are wrong. Last edited by britannicamoore on Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:49 am; edited 1 time in total |
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britannicamoore
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and apparently all emo teenagers. |
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fighterholic
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Maybe, but if I'm not mistaken there have been movies about OR having a side plot of high schoolers having sex over here. Don't forget that Arcueid isn't human and there's no way in hell that she's going to be susceptible to the laws that humans have laid down. Clearly them having sex was made apparent in the anime, but if doesn't show them in the act, what grounds do you have to attack it? No I don't think this promotes lolicon or sex with minors because that segment lasted no more than 30 SECONDS. |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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For starters edit your posts. Don't post 4 times in a row to get attention. So everyone seeking counseling is looking for a quack? Boy you are so goddamn stupid it hurts my brain. Be it a rape victim, physical abuse, child abuse, alcoholic, etc etc. All these people seeking counseling to better their lives are just looking for quacks? It's all fake and we're all losers for wanting to better ourselves and over come some sort of adversity? You sir are quite possibly the dumbest person I have ever seen in my life. So pulling knives on a bully isn't enough. Nope, now all people wanting counseling are losers. What grand piece of knowledge are you going to reward us with next? Maybe those people don't have family, hell maybe that "family" were the perpetrators in the first place. Since counseling is so [expletive] useless how would you suggest curing a pedophile or stopping them? Suppose your fiance' is murdered and your life is ruined, what's your answer then huh? What's your answer then to all the millions with some sort of mental illness who need help controlling themselves? |
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Kilgamayan
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I'd like to see a formal proof of this. |
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fighterholic
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Hmm, then what did I go to counseling for those oh four months? |
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