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Usagi-kun
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:57 pm
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Cloudy with a chance of unlikely. But I will try to be more optimistic and positive about these things.
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Beatdigga
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:04 pm
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Wan, you made $300 million in China. You're smarter than this. This movie is not happening.
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AbZeroNow
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:06 pm
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I'm conflicted. Good director for an anime-related property for a change, but man, I HATE Harmony Gold. Plus unless those leeches at HG are kept at more than arms length, I doubt that Big West or Studio Nue will let them use the IP that everyone would want out of Robotech (which would be Macross).
At least if it bombs, maybe then Harmony Gold will file Chapter 7 and go the way of the dodo.
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Beatdigga
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:15 pm
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People are assuming that it's going to be about the Zentraedi and Rick/Hikaru and Minmei...it's not. The lawyers are gonna ensure that. It's not going to be a LA Macross.
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Lycosyncer
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:22 pm
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Wan, what you did with the Fast & Furious franchise is awesome and I really enjoyed your work, with the exception of Saw of course but I really highly doubt that the live action Robotech will ever get off the bridge.
Also, I also wish that Harmony Gold would just go away for good so that the embargo placed on Macross can finally be lifted.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:39 pm
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If shit like JEM can get a film made, I don't see why Hollywood's nostalgia mining wouldn't eventually lead to stuff like Robotech as well. Like the previous users posted, it would only be Robotech as it exists now: all original designs and plots that belong solely to HG and barely anything related to Macross. But given that it wouldn't be expecting audiences to already be familiar with the property, it'll probably just be entirely original from scratch. Robotech in name only. Will probably even end up better than anything Macek or HG wrote or retooled, and that's one thing to get excited about, that we'll have a space conflict movie that's not just callbacks a la JJ's Star Trek.
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GATSU
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:43 pm
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Doesn't matter who's directing, because, once again, they'd have to deal with HG's licensing disputes with Tatsunoko/Big West/Bandai over Macross, in order to release the damned thing in Asia. Also, a guy who directed a bunch of Saw movies and the latest installment in a hit car porn franchise isn't someone who can automatically tackle a sci-fi series of this nature. But keep trying, Blowme.
Beat: You can't release the film in Asia without calling it Macross. And even if some elements have been changed, if the story resembles Macross in any way, I imagine the Japanese Macross owners will sic their legal dogs on Sony pretty quickly.
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Great Rumbler
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:43 pm
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Beatdigga wrote: | People are assuming that it's going to be about the Zentraedi and Rick/Hikaru and Minmei...it's not. The lawyers are gonna ensure that. It's not going to be a LA Macross. |
It's going to be Top Gun in Space, which would probably actually be pretty cool.
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TarsTarkas
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:51 pm
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Lawyers are going to have nothing to do with this. If this does get off the ground, it is going to be a Sony picture. If Sony chooses to use the IP, they will use it and the Japan side of things won't cry about it.
I don't discount that Sony could just water everything down, as some have said, but it won't be because of IP issues, but rather to marketing.
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GATSU
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:55 pm
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Tarkas:
Quote: | If Sony chooses to use the IP, they will use it and the Japan side of things won't cry about it. |
I doubt it, if it's on the Japan turf. The only reason they let The Lion King, Black Swan, and Inception slide over there is Madhouse and TezukaPro are too poor to take on Hollywood in court. But if you pick a fight with someone higher up the food chain, you might just get burned. For example, Nick Simmons and Bleach.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:01 pm
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I'm pretty sure they could sue Sony and win for copyright infringement if they no intention of OK-ing the use.
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FenixFiesta
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:59 pm
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Quote: | Will probably even end up better than anything Macek or HG wrote or retooled, and that's one thing to get excited about, that we'll have a space conflict movie that's not just callbacks a la JJ's Star Trek. |
Ya, best case scenario it is effectively the next "Bay-formers", but to say it again until there is a trailer this project feels as "real" as a live action Hollywood Evangelion release as far as I am concerned.
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MajorZero
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:05 am
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GATSU wrote: | I doubt it, if it's on the Japan turf. The only reason they let The Lion King, Black Swan, and Inception slide over there is Madhouse and TezukaPro are too poor to take on Hollywood in court. |
On what grounds exactly? Wishful thinking? Oh yeah, I forgot, everything in existence is a ripoff of anime.
On topic, does Robotech have any kind of recognition among general public? I'm not sure IP will be profitable enough to justify creation of big-budget space opera. In the last 15 years I can only remember Star Trek and Star Wars ever made it to the cinema, plus japanese live-action Yamato with KimuTaku (it's cheap and terrible, but still counts). Unlike Robotech, every last one of those films belong to established and highly popular franchises.
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MagusGuardian
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:42 am
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I seriously doubt this will even get past the script writing process knowing harmony gold is, they're probably going to demand a royalty fee of something close to 80 - 98% of all profits from the movie and any DVD/BD sales just for mentioning robotech
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:32 am
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MajorZero wrote: | On topic, does Robotech have any kind of recognition among general public? I'm not sure IP will be profitable enough to justify creation of big-budget space opera. In the last 15 years I can only remember Star Trek and Star Wars ever made it to the cinema, plus japanese live-action Yamato with KimuTaku (it's cheap and terrible, but still counts). Unlike Robotech, every last one of those films belong to established and highly popular franchises. |
I can't really think it does, like at all. Normal people remember Voltron and Power Rangers, but Robotech was probably just stuck in the memories of specific kinds of nerds and geeks and now it's mostly just anime fans. To use something like Robot Chicken as a benchmark, they've done Jem, He-Man, Voltron and a host of other 80s nostalgia, but I doubt they'd ever do Robotech. They'd probably have to start a recognition campaign from scratch, this really isn't something that people are going to dig out from their attic of memories. It's not like TMNT or Transformers, which have had recent ongoing TV series on basic cable, thus a newly established audience of youngsters – no such thing exists for Robotech.
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