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Wrangler
Joined: 11 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:52 am
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That was interesting interview! I didn't know much about the folks who worked on the old 80s cartoons like MASK and Pole Position. Mospaeda and the original Bubblegrum crisis series were my favorites. Its pity animes that calibur aren't in favor for most people who like anime.
I'm not sure what i think about CGI, i like the blending myself verse full on CG, Aramaki-sensei i doing. I personally hope they can do more hand-drawn stuff more, i can't say i agree that rest world like CGI verses hand drawn, think it just got cheaper or people gotten used to it and no longer a noveility.
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:23 pm
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I'm cool with minimal or no CG in anime, the hand drawn look has always fared out better than CG in most instances. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
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navycherub
Joined: 26 Oct 2007
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:38 pm
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I am definitely not against CG like in the amazing Captain Harlock movie though, and in cases like Majestic Prince and Sidonia no Kishi, CG works out to make really lovely, wonderfully choreographed action.
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DangerMouse
Joined: 25 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:14 pm
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Wrangler wrote: | That was interesting interview! I didn't know much about the folks who worked on the old 80s cartoons like MASK and Pole Position. |
Same here! That was cool
navycherub wrote: | I am definitely not against CG like in the amazing Captain Harlock movie though, and in cases like Majestic Prince and Sidonia no Kishi, CG works out to make really lovely, wonderfully choreographed action. |
Yeah, I think they can be very good, like in those three works I really liked the CG. I wouldn't want to lose the hand-drawn shows either but I also don't mind the variety of seeing both styles.
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configspace
Joined: 16 Aug 2008
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:30 pm
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Hoppy800 wrote: | I'm cool with minimal or no CG in anime, the hand drawn look has always fared out better than CG in most instances. If it's not broken, don't fix it. |
I prefer the hand-drawn look too, but I think you'll see CG used more and more, in non-obvious ways. Some of it is due to very good cel shading rendering and tech, others due to clever mixing of elements. Anytime you see huge camera movements, basically anything other than a flat pan, that's a big indicator of CG being used.
Kill La Kill uses CG for some elements and for some scenes, switches over to all CG. The CG can be used directly or as reference models. For other scenes, in CG action sequences, select character keyframes are replaced with handdrawn poses for fight scenes that's nearly all CG. They used CG models for Ryuuko and Satsuki and other characters and environment.
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pajmo9
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:42 pm
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I don't mind CG myself. I especially liked it in shows like Karas, Short Peace, Majestic Prince, Tiger and Bunny... The list could go on.
Some of these studios are really trying to push the envelope which I personally think is great thing. A lot of the problems I used to have with mixing hand drawn and CG have all but disappeared and as time goes on they just keep getting less and less noticeable.
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Shadowrun20XX
Joined: 26 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:07 pm
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Bring on the CGi, the more it's used, the better they get. MORE! Get over the hump.
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Snomaster1
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:05 am
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I just read the interview with Shinji Aramaki. It was very good. I like that it also mentioned his career in American animation. It's a shame that there are those who feel that his work in the U.S. is somehow lesser to his work in Japan. They're both great works and I hope that Mr. Aramaki does some more American work. I'm among those who appreciate his work both in America and Japan.
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enurtsol
Joined: 01 May 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:51 am
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Japanese audience are getting used to CG. This year's top films in Japan, both foreign (Frozen) and domestic (Doreamon), are both 3DCG.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:39 am
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enurtsol wrote: | Japanese audience are getting used to CG. |
Doesn't mean otaku are, outside of cel-shaded designs that try to mimic 2D as best as their budgets will allow like with Arpeggio (remember, it sold more than Kill la Kill or Psycho-pass). Harlock and Saint Seiya bombed, and any relevance Appleseed had is long gone.
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