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Ryu Shoji
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Location: Cambridge, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:07 am
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Jabbed with a practically indestructible bamboo sword, I should add xD.
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mewpudding101
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:22 am
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I'm sorry man, but completely agreed...
But kudos to you for knowing and admitting. It must have been hard.
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Thatguy3331
Joined: 18 Feb 2012
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:24 am
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wow...I'm almost speechless.... I mean I thought the first episode was bad but still.
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RyanSaotome
Joined: 29 Mar 2011
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:29 am
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I don't think the source material can be much better then the anime
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extatix
Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:32 am
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Ryu Shoji wrote: | Jabbed with a practically indestructible bamboo sword, I should add xD. |
I almost forgot about that.
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TnKtRk
Joined: 17 Mar 2011
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:33 am
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Yeah, because light novels are the gold standard of literature.
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Nonaka Machine Gun B
Joined: 03 Feb 2009
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:46 am
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TnKtRk wrote: | Yeah, because light novels are the gold standard of literature. |
Well, the industry seems perfectly content to mine light novels instead of coming up with original works. In a way, you're sarcasm is aimed towards anime.
I believe the actual point the author is making isn't that one medium is better than another, but that works exist in their respective mediums for a reason. He says right there in the article he isn't a fan of mixed media, which I can only assume he means adapatations/overlapping franchises. Perhaps his work was good enough the way it was and didn't need to be animated?
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FenixFiesta
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:56 am
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More than likely it goes with the nature that something is always lost in the adaptation.
As an example, making large exposition in LN form doesn't seem so awkward, but when you make a seiyuu spiel out the line it makes your writing sound amateur and certainly not tailored for scripting purposes.
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kakoishii
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:29 pm
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RyanSaotome wrote: | I don't think the source material can be much better then the anime |
from the way he talked about it, it seems as though he has no love for his work in general, like he's just doing it for the pay check.
FenixFiesta wrote: |
As an example, making large exposition in LN form doesn't seem so awkward, but when you make a seiyuu spiel out the line it makes your writing sound amateur and certainly not tailored for scripting purposes. |
Large exposition is bad in any kind of narrative be it in a visual medium or on the page. I don't read LNs but if large exposition is common in them, then I can understand why many people don't regard them so well.
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Redcrimson
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:40 pm
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kakoishii wrote: | Large exposition is bad in any kind of narrative be it in a visual medium or on the page. I don't read LNs but if large exposition is common in them, then I can understand why many people don't regard them so well. |
It's not just common, it's kind of the entire gimmick of Light Novels that everything is described in ridiculously nerdy and elaborate prose.
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Kreion
Joined: 02 Jan 2013
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:12 pm
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kakoishii wrote: |
RyanSaotome wrote: | I don't think the source material can be much better then the anime |
from the way he talked about it, it seems as though he has no love for his work in general, like he's just doing it for the pay check.
FenixFiesta wrote: |
As an example, making large exposition in LN form doesn't seem so awkward, but when you make a seiyuu spiel out the line it makes your writing sound amateur and certainly not tailored for scripting purposes. |
Large exposition is bad in any kind of narrative be it in a visual medium or on the page. I don't read LNs but if large exposition is common in them, then I can understand why many people don't regard them so well. |
He makes a point against mixed media, not his own work. He very likely just agreed to the anime for a pay check as an anime is a form of marketing as much as it is its own series.
That's...not true. You have to expose everything at SOME point, doing so through a character saying everything aloud or thinking it is obviously not the best method, but it can work some times. Often though, it is a bit cringe-worthy and I'd agree that the majority of the time it's a poor method of exposition.
And LN's are regarded poorly by some people because many of them are self-referential or generic, but the same can be said for most forms of media. There's also a fair about of bias towards LN's just because they are LN's and not full books *shrug*.
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kakoishii
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:44 pm
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Redcrimson wrote: |
It's not just common, it's kind of the entire gimmick of Light Novels that everything is described in ridiculously nerdy and elaborate prose. |
that sounds awful, I will not be picking up a light novel anytime soon...
Kreion wrote: |
That's...not true. You have to expose everything at SOME point, doing so through a character saying everything aloud or thinking it is obviously not the best method, but it can work some times. Often though, it is a bit cringe-worthy and I'd agree that the majority of the time it's a poor method of exposition. |
Lengthy exposition is always a poor storytelling mechanic. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. There are always other ways to reveal plot points other than having a character stop the narrative and start "backstory" time. It never works.
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Yause
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:53 pm
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Suzuki isn't criticizing the anime here.
They asked about his initial reaction when he heard that an anime had been greenlit. He admitted that he had been hesitant because of his low expectations for mixed media.
However, now that the first episode has aired, Suzuki thinks the show is very interesting and is surprised at what the staff managed to do. He's happy that they made an anime.
Basically, it's a standard PR response - say that you were hesitant about the idea but that the final outcome removes those doubts.
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Beatdigga
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:38 pm
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He also apparently was disinterested the whole time.
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andyseed
Joined: 04 Jan 2012
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:19 pm
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Yause wrote: | Suzuki isn't criticizing the anime here.
They asked about his initial reaction when he heard that an anime had been greenlit. He admitted that he had been hesitant because of his low expectations for mixed media.
However, now that the first episode has aired, Suzuki thinks the show is very interesting and is surprised at what the staff managed to do. He's happy that they made an anime.
Basically, it's a standard PR response - say that you were hesitant about the idea but that the final outcome removes those doubts. |
YEP sounds like PR , it better than i thought people should check it out line .
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