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Fencedude5609
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:32 pm
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Real talk though: Kitakubu improved dramatically as it went along, and was one of the best shows I've ever seen in terms of meta-humor about how terrible it is. (and its not actually that terrible!)
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Aquasakura
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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Location: Chesterfield, Virginia, U.S.A
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:36 pm
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A show about a club which main focus is to go home/do whatever they want? I never heard of this show, nor have I ever heard such a club. This is the most unique club I have heard of since hearing on the news one time about a new club that was started in a school called the nap club (the name should be self-explanatory). I'll give this show a try. It has an interesting concept and the characters, from what I read, seem to be fun.
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Rederoin
Joined: 29 May 2013
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Location: Europa
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:36 pm
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Himeko90 wrote: |
Did you even bother to READ my post. I explain why it is a contradiction. |
I don't see how that makes it a contradiction.
Do you know what a contradiction is?
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Echo_City
Joined: 03 Apr 2011
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:51 pm
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C'mon NISA, all the other companies are trying out new ideas so why can't' you try out a dub?
The "Lone Anime Superpower" that is Funimation is experimenting with real Limited Editions and sub-only blurays. As such, NISA really should be seeking new markets for its goods as Funimation is poised to conquer the one that they've nigh-monopolized for quite some time now.
The dub community is a powerful one. It is worldwide and has immense clout, more than enough to support a foray into dubbed releases. Just ask Sentai Filmworks.
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SouthPacific
Joined: 24 Oct 2013
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:57 pm
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My Name's Not Rick! wrote: |
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Not to mention US voice actors really can't compete with JP voice actors. Voice acting in Japan is different, and the competetion is incredibly intense. Those who actually get roles, and even further up the line, those who consistently get MC roles are extremely skilled at their work.
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Ok, but that's how things work in Japan, so why does that even matter here, in the U.S., or other place that aren't Japan? |
Wow. Just wow.
It matters because of ALL the reasons I stated in my post. If you would've read it you probably would've understand why it matters. I suggest you go and do so. Now .
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SouthPacific
Joined: 24 Oct 2013
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:03 pm
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getchman wrote: | dubs are cancer, that's hilarious |
Yeah, it's funny ain't it? You can get an all-around fantastic release from NISA, with a big, sturdy beautiful art box, original JP art case covers & hardcover art books for the same price you would pay Sentai Filmworks for one of their barebones, dull looking, half-assed produced dub release.
This is just my opinion, but I personally think that what NISA offers is superior to your average dub release in any imaginable way.
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ethos711
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:09 pm
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The first 3 episodes of this show are quite slow. Nothing worth raving about up to that point. But after they shatter the 4th wall in the 4th episode I was hooked. Also, episode 10 is genius if you notice what's going on.
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rydia251
Joined: 10 Jul 2013
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:11 pm
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SouthPacific wrote: |
getchman wrote: | dubs are cancer, that's hilarious |
Yeah, it's funny ain't it? You can get an all-around fantastic release from NISA, with a big, sturdy beautiful art box, original JP art case covers & hardcover art books for the same price you would pay Sentai Filmworks for one of their barebones, dull looking, half-assed produced dub release.
This is just my opinion, but I personally think that what NISA offers is superior to your average dub release in any imaginable way. |
I can agree to some extent on Sentai products, but Funimation products are in another league from them. I love the NISA boxes and watch 90% sub but like an occasional quality dub, even if the English dub industry is not the exact same as it is in Japan.
Regardless, you are pretty abrasive regarding the preferences of others. That box of yours is getting pretty soapy.
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Himeko90
Joined: 20 Nov 2013
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:46 pm
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getchman wrote: | everything involving rederoin |
Contrary to your tinfoil hat assumption, I am not stalking rederoin. I was only replying to his/her posts within this thread (but hey, if you want hold the believe that I am personally going after rederoin at every possible opportunity, then go right ahead (who am I to stop you).
rydia251 wrote: |
I can agree to some extent on Sentai products, but Funimation products are in another league from them. I love the NISA boxes and watch 90% sub but like an occasional quality dub, even if the English dub industry is not the exact same as it is in Japan. |
With the exception of a few select releases (Funimation), there isn't much of a difference between Sentai and Funimation with regards to releases. They both pretty much subscribe to the "show in plastic case and that's it" mentality and rarely have releases that have any substantive extras.
Quote: | Regardless, you are pretty abrasive regarding the preferences of others. That box of yours is getting pretty soapy. |
Don't see how him/her stating their opinion on dubs and their value is soapboxing or "abrasive". Last time I checked, it's not "inappropriate" to be against dubs or the idea of having dubs in releases.
Echo_City wrote: | C'mon NISA, all the other companies are trying out new ideas so why can't' you try out a dub?
The "Lone Anime Superpower" that is Funimation is experimenting with real Limited Editions and sub-only blurays. As such, NISA really should be seeking new markets for its goods as Funimation is poised to conquer the one that they've nigh-monopolized for quite some time now.
The dub community is a powerful one. It is worldwide and has immense clout, more than enough to support a foray into dubbed releases. Just ask Sentai Filmworks.
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OR, they can continue to do what they are doing because it is working for them and they are making money from it. Clearly, based on how they have done their releases over the past several years, NIS (as well as Aniplex of America) aren't interested in being the 800-pound gorilla of the US Anime industry and are more than willing to allow Funimation to take that title (and all of the negative aspects that come with it). They are not obligated to do dubs for the series that they release (contrary to the belief of the pro-dub half of the community). To quote one of my favorite quotes of all time:
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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My Name's Not Rick!
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:51 pm
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SouthPacific wrote: |
Wow. Just wow.
It matters because of ALL the reasons I stated in my post. If you would've read it you probably would've understand why it matters. I suggest you go and do so. Now . |
No I get it, but but why does it have to be some sort of competition.
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MarthKoopa
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:52 pm
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Funimation puts out great boxes with great dubs, and Viz puts out great dubs and are now venturing into fancy boxes with K, all for roughly the same price as NISA stuff, so surely NISA can take a leap and get a popular show to dub.
And you're crazy if you think all dubs are bad. Sentai even released a fantastic dub with Girls und Panzer(proving that it's the director who makes or breaks a dub, not the actors), and some of their dubs are good enough to be watchable over the Japanese audio (which is not always perfect like some people seem to think).
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getchman
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:53 pm
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Eh, I thought it was average
Himeko90 wrote: |
getchman wrote: | everything involving rederoin |
Contrary to your tinfoil hat assumption, I am not stalking rederoin. I was only replying to his/her posts within this thread (but hey, if you want hold the believe that I am personally going after rederoin at every possible opportunity, then go right ahead (who am I to stop you).
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whoa, easy man. I only meant this thread.
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Himeko90
Joined: 20 Nov 2013
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:05 pm
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MarthKoopa wrote: | Funimation puts out great boxes with great dubs, and Viz puts out great dubs and are now venturing into fancy boxes with K, all for roughly the same price as NISA stuff, so surely NISA can take a leap and get a popular show to dub. |
Those types of releases are the exception, not the rule when it comes to Funimation's releases in general. The MAJORITY of the shows that they license get put out in bare-bones, "the show and that's it" releases.
Quote: | And you're crazy if you think all dubs are bad. Sentai even released a fantastic dub with Girls und Panzer(proving that it's the director who makes or breaks a dub, not the actors), and some of their dubs are good enough to be watchable over the Japanese audio (which is not always perfect like some people seem to think). |
Yeah, that's a subjective opinion, not fact (which I happen to disagree with).
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ZorinBlitz
Joined: 06 Dec 2012
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:21 pm
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firedragon54738 wrote: | Well it a nice pick but why them they need to start dubbing |
NIS America, please continue to license shows and never dub them to make this guy unhappy.
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enurtsol
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:56 pm
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Himeko90 wrote: |
NIS (as well as Aniplex of America) aren't interested in being the 800-pound gorilla of the US Anime industry and are more than willing to allow Funimation to take that title (and all of the negative aspects that come with it). |
And the positives, including the economies of scale.
Himeko90 wrote: |
They are not obligated to do dubs for the series that they release (contrary to the belief of the pro-dub half of the community). To quote one of my favorite quotes of all time:
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it." |
And that applies to the rest of US anime industry as well - obviously they are making more money out of the dubs (as evidenced by Sentai going back and dubbing their early sub-only releases) and how they're doing now with releases, as they can afford more and more licenses than others. (And I'd daresay Space Dandy will only make money because there is a dub - and a simultaneous one at that.)
Whether J-seiyuu or dub VAs are better, worse, or the same are all subjective opinions. But I do agree the J-seiyuu industry are generally more highly skilled. Still, a lot of these opinions also boil down to something being the original, e.g. the roles being made for their skillset. Consider this example: for all their high skills, J-seiyuu dubs of Disney (or others') works hardly ever surpass the originals - and most Disney's Hollywood VAs aren't even the best out there (I mean, they're good, but they're not the best voice-acting around). So being the original plays a significant factor.
(Or how about when there's a subtle difference between a bad act and a good act...... don't get us started on some our Japanese buddies. It's almost irritating to always hear them explain something to us simply: "oh it's just natural we see things that ya [dumb] gaijin cannot notice" (ok I added the "dumb" part, but that feeling is what makes it irritating).
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