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Fencedude5609 wrote:

You haven't actually looked at all the shit no one remembers from those decades, have you?

The ´70s didn't have that many anime tv series in the first place, though.

rederoin wrote:

Fencedude5609 wrote: You haven't actually looked at all the shit no one remembers from those decades, have you? The ´70s didn't have that many anime tv series in the first place, though.

There is also that. We now get more TV anime in a season than there used to be in an entire year.

But people looking at an entire decade and picking out a dozen, or even two dozen shows they like is pretty meaningless.

You haven't actually looked at all the shit no one remembers from those decades, have you?

mdo7 wrote:

Well sound like that article from Popmatters is the only source for Johnny's Entertainment behind the scene.

I truly doubt that writer has any actual inside knowledge about the Japanese entertainment industry, only the same sort of "looking in from the outside and speculating" POV that most of the rest of us have.

So you don't watch any J-dramas at all, aside from CR/DF's meager offerings? Man, if they ever do get widely licensed your backlog's gonna be huuuuge...

All this J-drama talk reminds me of the Eko Eko Azarak TV series starring Hinako Saeki. Watched it way back in 1998 on JET TV (Japanese Entertainment Television) dubbed in English. Guess now I know why Media Blasters managed to license the spin-off movie, Misa the Dark Angel, but not the series itself.

So I take it Johnny & Associates is the reason why Funimation and Sentai couldn't use Tokio's music in their Kodocha and Skull Man DVDs respectively? Good to know whom to blame for that.

I am still unclear on how licensing works. I was disappointed earlier this year when Project X Zone came out for the 3DS, and they cut Yoko Takahashi's two songs she contributed for the game because they couldn't get the license for it. It's also been done similarly in Tales of Symphonia and Tales of the Abyss, but strangely not for Tales of Vesperia (which by the way, got Ring A Bell not cut from the core 360 game, but from Project X Zone...)

But it confuses me because wouldn't that mean they have to get licensing for all tv shows? (i.e. ADV would get the license to include 'Cruel Angel's Thesis' and Fly Me To The Moon and whatnot for Evangelion, etc)

In my opinion, Japan's record industry doesn't want to get out of their own comfort zone. They're comfortable with how their products make money in their home turf. They're comfortable with their distribution system in their country.

It is frustrating to foreign fans of Japanese media, but they haven't faced major industry crisis like in the states, so there is no rush for Japanese to accept the change.

So basically I feel the Japanese industry is completely dropping the ball compared to their Korean counterparts. I think a lot of it is frankly over-valuing their product in a foreign market, a common complaint to anyone who's listened in on chatter about the anime industry. In other words, no matter how awesome the copyright-owning agency (and I) may personally think Japanese actor/singer/drama X is, a vast majority of folks over here have never heard of it so one just can't demand the same licensing prices as one would in the home territory.

In recent years, many theme songs have been licensed from sources outside of Japan. In some instances, theme songs have been licensed from some of the biggest names in the Western recording industry. This practice has disadvantages. When the Japanese drama is licensed outside of Japan, theme music licensing becomes very costly. For example, in the Fuji TV drama Densha Otoko, the opening song and some of the background music had to be replaced in the release that aired on the Nippon Golden Network because they couldn't get the rights to use the music.

Hmm, I watched Orphen earlier this year, and I thought it was really good. The sequel stunk, but still. Just because its a 90s show, doesn't make it bad.

Nobody in this thread has, barring a post that I missed, actually proclaimed that they only watch two shows in a season because that's all that's worth watching. This has been a long argument over somebody not actually here. It's like we're a lot of very disagreeable schizophrenics. That makes everything a seem dubious to me because if the perspective isn't actually represented, we can too easily just make it what we want. I can believe that it's a perspective that exists, as foolish as it is, but it's not actually involved in a discussion of itself.

What I'm curious about is why that hypothetical proved so compelling. Why has there been such interest in condemning Mr. 2/30, defining him as, "not that big a fan of anime," and pushing a quantitative definition of what a fan is?

You haven't actually looked at all the shit no one remembers from those decades, have you?

malvarez1 wrote:

Hmm, I watched Orphen earlier this year, and I thought it was really good. The sequel stunk, but still. Just because its a 90s show, doesn't make it bad.

Amen, that brother. There aren't many sequels that are THAT inferior. The spells were horrible, weird light patters BS. The character development from the first season was left IN the first season. The plot was retarded.

I've been watching anime assiduously since mid 2007. In that time I've seen about 360 titles, of which about half have been TV series so that equates to about 27-28 series per year or about 7 per season in that time. It's just that I feel no obligation to watch currently airing series. In truth, I avoid watching them because hype can disguise their shortcomings, I don't like watching one episode per week, and there's so much gold from the past that is every bit as good as currently aired shows. Last night I finished Ergo Proxy (2006) and I'm about a ¼ way through From the Apennines to the Andes (1976). Both are terrific.

Of 2013's TV shows I've seen Chihayafuru 2 because I enjoyed the first season so much and Flowers of Evil because the usual crew were so incensed by it I figured it had to be good, and it was. Of the rest of 2013 I've got Attack on Titan, Eccentric Family and WATAMOTE in my sights but not many other series appeal. I prefer to watch serious anime (and comedies can be serious) with adult characters and there hasn't been many of those this year.

Anyway, I think watching around 2 series in any particular season gives me plenty of opportunity to get that anime "wow" factor without wading through so much of the dross that is out there.

Life is precious. Why waste it on crap?

There are some people who love anime as a medium to the extent that they like to try out a number of different shows in different genres. These "general anime fans" may watch many shows per season and get varying amounts of enjoyment out of all of them (even if it's the perverse enjoyment of criticizing a show that ends up being crap).

Others do not have that high degree of love for the medium as a whole, but find certain series that they fall in love with and become fans of those particular shows, on the merits of the shows themselves rather than on the fact that they are considered "anime". These "specific anime fans" may only follow two or three shows per season, depending on what they hear others talk about or what looks interesting to them.

Yet others find themselves a fan of specific genres in anime; they may shun other genres and even make claims that those other genres are "killing" anime because they are crowding out the shows of their preferred genres, which gets them in fights with that genre's fans. These "genre anime fans" may end up watching a moderate number of shows, depending on their preferred genre.

All three are anime fans, and I would never call any of them "not a true anime fan". They're different from each other, to be sure (with some overlap between the first and third type), but they're all still anime fans.

Last night I finished Ergo Proxy (2006) and I'm about a ¼ way through From the Apennines to the Andes (1976). Both are terrific.

Of 2013's TV shows I've seen Chihayafuru 2 because I enjoyed the first season so much and Flowers of Evil because the usual crew were so incensed by it I figured it had to be good, and it was. Of the rest of 2013 I've got Attack on Titan, Eccentric Family and WATAMOTE in my sights but not many other series appeal. I prefer to watch serious anime (and comedies can be serious) with adult characters and there hasn't been many of those this year.

Anyway, I think watching around 2 series in any particular season gives me plenty of opportunity to get that anime "wow" factor without wading through so much of the dross that is out there.

Life is precious. Why waste it on crap?