Forum - View topic[OT] Viacom Demands Youtube To Remove Videos
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fighterholic
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070202/tc_nm/viacom_youtube_dc
Seems they could not reach a negotiating agreement, but they're also finding pirated videos of their materials on site, so they want the stuff down. So it looks like JASRAC isn't the only company going after Youtube for pirated videos. |
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Nerv1
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What's wrong with that? It's just clips of shows from their network s, what do they have to complain about? It's not like fansubs where companies lose their money.
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starcade
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Of course, one forgets at that point that the only reason television exists is to bring the masses to advertisers. Hence, money is lost. (And I'm not exactly sure this is OT, since we know of, already, two such calls from the Japanese for removals -- neither have found success.) |
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Nerv1
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But just because its uploaded online, it doesn't mean that the TV companies would lose money. Would people rather watch a full length tv show online at a small screen broken fragments or would they rather watch it on their TV? People would rather watch it on TV when its on and they'll watch it online when its not on TV. The companies would get money from when the consumers go and buy the DVD's which enforces my point of view: Producers don't lose money when their shows are on websites such as youtube, they'll still earn the same amount of money. |
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fighterholic
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JASRAC wasn't just going after fansubs though, some of the materials online were music videos and AMVs containing music protected under JASRAC, not to mention TBS also wanted materials removed, if I remember correctly.
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Riyousha
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I know. What if some of the videos copyrighted by Viacom arent full episodes of certain shows? Now I remember a clip from one of Viacom's properties called BET. A music video by DMX called "Ain't No Sunshine" was removed because the person who uploaded it did own rights to it. This made me very upset because I like that song. It shouldn't be removed. 
I hope they don't delete any videos of Omarion's "Ice Box". 
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jetz
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Is this the reason why I can't view elfen lied and death note videos on youtube? That is so depressing!
As much as I want to watch those animes on TV I can't. I've said before that our cable does not offer a lot of animes, and most of the animes they show are lost in translation (since when did Kurama from YYH become a girl?) and I am not a fan of tagalog dubbing (not being a traitor to my own language, but I like watching anime they way it should be).. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is disadvantaged when it comes to this.. I also agree with Nerv1.. It's not like I prefer watching animes on youtube instead on TV.. I just don't have the resources so the only choice I can make is to deal with what I have.. sheesh 
furthermore, I think want viacom wants defeats the purpose of youtube which is to allow users to avoid videos so the public can see what they want.. anyway, this is my opinion and I can't say everyone agrees to what I think, but really... this is so depressing!! 
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NGE1113
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Viacom's the entity that financed and has ownership rights to these shows; hence, they're entitled to act as they see fit when it comes to the discovery of pirated materials posted to YouTube. It seems that this point needs to be emphasized a bit. What's causing the contention between the two is not the fear of lost DVD sales by Viacom, but the fact that Viacom feels that YouTube's making money off by hosting these materials, while Viacom receives nothing in return:
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God Gundam
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The internet isn't out to please only you, my good sir. If you want to see these music videos so much, try Yahoo! Video or BET's website or something. |
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Doctor who
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I like how they pretend youtube isn't a horrible way to watch something in the first place. No one watching it on you tube was going to buy it anyway, since you tube is for people simply to lazy to actually download things. I fall under that umbrella as well very often. It isn't youtube that's hurting sales, it's the internet in general let's face facts. It's now easier to pirate things than at any time in history and these companies are just to slow to keep up with the times, if they think stuff like this is actually going to work.
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omar235
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Well you can actually find some fairly good quality anime on YouTube. That aside they go after YouTube because it is an easy target and it is providing easier access to illegal content I don't think that it will really do anything but they may hope that those people to lazy too download will stay too lazy to download with the demise of their easy viewing sight. I agree though that the problem is with the places you are able to download the stuff, but going after those places is far to hard to do, practically impossible actually because you can't pinpoint a server on them. |
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
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Yes I agree, YouTube is the layperson's portal to free video and the whole intent of it is not to provide high video quality since that is impossible with the limited amount of bandwidth and storage the site can provide as a free site. Fansubs and dowloadable peer2peer media is higher quality because the files are not located on a central server. But more effort is needed to find what you want. With both YouTube and Torrents, abuse is occurring (ie free access to copywrighted and licensed material), it's just that YouTube is that centralized entity that can be targeted and they must take responsibility for what is uploaded even though they are not the ones doing the uploading.
I believe that no matter how many disclaimers that say "YouTube is not responsible or liable for content uploaded to the site" that YouTube's management uses does not automatically protect them from actions taken by the industry. It is *near* impossible to target users who use YouTube irresponsibly or abuse it in ways it wasn't intended. I say "near" impossible since we all know of the cases where Napster users were prosecuted in the days when that site could be used to obtain large amounts of music for free. Of course it seems more pointless and futile to try to punish YouTube users since the letters sent to YouTube Co. do seem to be having an affect. |
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