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KyuuA4
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All fighting genre is comparable to DBZ - because DBZ was the most prominent (NOTE: I said was) Other fighting series existed prior to DBZ - but DBZ managed to get the most attention.
The fighting genre has been full of cliches and exaggerations; and some existed prior to DBZ. However, DBZ took all those cliches and exaggerations a step-further - particularly, the getting stronger (in short time span) cliche. Then subsequent fighting series followed suit afterwards - to a greater or lesser degree. Furthermore, DBZ is the first fighting series to be "dominant" outside Japan. For many, it is the first anime people have watched - ever. Thankfully, I'm not one of those people. 
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dzeratul
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Well yes, I guess the poster up there ^^ Is pretty much, well telling what is true. DragonBall was the first maybe anime to come out, and from there out many people got their inspirations.
But on a side note, I just think it's only because DragonBall Z and Naruto came out dubbed in America, ergo people only know those two and can't really compare to anything else. Otherwise, meh... they're different, the same. Does it really matter? |
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Raven Shinobi
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I guess it also depends on what the person has seen first, most of those who have seen Naruto before DBZ regard the former as superior in every imaginable way and the opposite is true.
I've seen DBZ before Naruto and I'll always have a softer spot for it, even though Naruto's story is a bit more complex -though not that original nor intriguing, judging by the quality of recent chapters- and some characters were given their chance to shine -one of my gripes about DBZ is that it was Gokou who had always been hogging the spotlight, back in the Buu saga, I thought it would have been cool if Trunks and Goten were the ones to defeat Buu, just for the sake of some variety. |
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naruto fan 09812
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Do you find it annoying that every time someone dies in DBZ they wish them back to life with the dragonballs but in Naruto when a person dies they stay dead. Those kinds of annoying plots in DBZ do not happen often in Naruto.
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coffee
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Finding that the heroes of DBZ get ressurected is annoying is entirely subjective. If the "Z Team" wasn't always being brought back to life, the show would have ended a LOT earlier (maybe that would have been a good thing for some of you). For instance kill of Naruto, now what are you goind to do with the show? Anyway what I can't stand even more is when people are supposed to be dead, but then the writers bring them back saying they were "just knocked out", or when they are set up to die, but live through it. Those latter example happen ALL THE TIME in Naruto, and I find that kind of death/rebirth whatever, a lot more annoying than being ressurected by magic dragonballs. |
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Vuwazy
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If there is anything that is lucky to be mentioned with something else it's Naruto. Most of the things you said I think completely the other way around. Naruto fights were straight up boring when in DBZ the fights electrified me. You must have refered to funimation's dub for the music. It didn't bother me too much and the Japanese one is better. Every other side character besides Goku got to contribute nonetheless.
Same goes to Naruto.
Maybe Naruto doesn't have its characters come back to life like DBZ does. But I find the deaths in DBZ better.
I don't see Naruto being an upgraded version of DBZ. More money, no. Newer, yes. More detailed fighting, probably or probably not. For an older audience, I don't agree.
Don't forget, Bleach as well.
The fillers in DB and DBZ were done within the episodes. Studio Toei didn't rely on the fillers for Dragon Ball to be dedicated to an entire episode. Studio Pierrot did the fillers like this with Naruto too sometimes but not well enough. That's what I think the problem with Naruto is regarding the fillers. Toei applied ways that were smart and handled scenes well enough to not let the tv series catch up to the manga.
I'm fine with DBZ dragging its fights compared to what goes on in Naruto. Sure, Naruto fights don't stretch out as long. But at least with 15+ episodes of fighting in DBZ there was a lot more action and they delivered more in opposed to the stuff that happens in Naruto where fights get disrupted and stagnate any action that happend. Naruto may have a more complex plot but it doesn't get DBZ in every way. When it comes to explaining the motives and why things are happening Naruto wins. But when it comes to setting up fights and originality DBZ wins. I do agree with Raven Shinobi about Goku taking the spotlight from everybody. It makes him a mascot. Characters such as Piccolo, Krillen, Tien, Yamcha were thrown off. It was a shame things had to be like that. But then when compared to Naruto I'm kinda glad. Because in Naruto there are too many characters (same with Bleach). Because with too many characters it's not that easy to manage them all. I use to think that Yu Yu Hakusho was biggest Dragon Ball Z rip off. And I got sick of YYH after 90+ episodes. Naruto seems be having more and more simularities with DBZ as it goes on. I didn't think the same at first but now I do agree with those people who say that. Which one do I find better? DBZ. I don't care how many episodes the fights took. I don't care how long the characters powered up. They were entertaining. I'll take Vegeta screaming and powering up to the final flash, Goku screaming and powering up to super saiyan 3 over Naruto continuosly doing kage bun no jutsu or Gaara tossing sand all over the place. The one thing I hate about Naruto is how melodramatic it gets and how there isn't that much action. The whole "wahhhhh nobody likes me" "I have no friends" things is annoying. I know that is the theme of the show, but still. A lot of the fights scenes were dull and ho-hum to watch. Sure in DBZ it was "when will this fight ever be over?" but in Naruto it's "when are they ever going to fight?". In DBZ the amount of talking and fighting balances each other out. Naruto not as much. I like the fights in DBZ better. Sure, you got the Rock Lee fight with other characters and the Naruto Sasuke fights. But I find fights in DBZ like the Android 17 and Piccolo fights more spectacular. One thing that is killing Naruto is the flashbacks. |
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Raven Shinobi
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Actually, there was one character in Naruto that had been brought back to life in the first arc of Naruto II and the method used for his resurrection was reminiscent of the second time when Gokou was brought back to life spoiler[when the old Kaioshin gave up his life force to restore Gokou's.] |
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sirkozmo
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My best friend and I have had this debate countless times as I'm sure hundreds of others transpire as this very discussion can verify. Various others have already stated as to why such comparisons are made (especially Nagisa, which I thought was the most succint and accurate), so I wont take the bait of turning my post into why Naruto is better than DBZ or vice versa. All I will say is that IMOHO they're both great series that I have appreciated (and still appreciate) for not only introducing me into the anime world (speaking of DBZ here) but what has also kept me (Naruto) in spite of the gratiitous and relentless fillers. But that's not to say that I have not grown up on other titles that have not recieved as much 'popularity-clout' if you will. There's my 2 cents. Count it for what its worth.
I'm going to have to disagree with you there. During the Trunks/Android Arc, it was Future Trunks who ended up defeating both the revived Freezer and his father. Also in the Cell Arc, teen Gohan (who had surpassed his father Son Goku BTW) ended up destroying Cell. |
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
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I also find this comment interesting. Usually in shows about fighting there should be more realism like characters dying in a realistic way. With both DBZ and Naruto and other shows it's either the characters are brought back to life or the characters are extremely lucky and just happen to escape death repeatedly (just to build the plot and carry the story). Maybe because they are shows aimed at teens and children so they don't want to depict death with a sense of terminancy. But then that might give young people the impression that violence can solve problems and you don't have to worry about possibly dying or getting seriously hurt. So I say more realism in death in fighting anime, and more main characters who die and that's it; end of story. |
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Raven Shinobi
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It's true, but if you compared that with the ratio of the times that Gokou ended up saving the day, Gokou is still the one that hogged most of the spotlight in the series in comparison with the other characters. On a side note, Trunks and Cell saga were my favorite ones in the entire series, besides my favorite anime character Trunks getting all that focus, Gohan was the least one that I expected to defeat Cell, my money back then was on either Gokou or Trunks  , but it made it up for me when Trunks ended up defeating Cell in his own dimension 
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braifordly
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Okay so it's probably alread been said but I don't have the time or the patience to read everyones' posts.
Naruto is worse than DBZ. Why? Okay so DBZ did drag on, but Naruto can do one better. There are at least two flashbacks in every episode of Naruto. Sometimes there are even flashbacks within flashbacks. Now that's just absurd! If you add the "last time" and "next time" on Naruto there isn't much space for anything. You add two more flashbacks and you start going back in time... and not the good version either. Dragonball Z had fight after fight granted. But at least there felt like a progression of time. THINGS HAPPENED. in Naruto all of the episodes up until now (and I'm talking in Japan) feel like they took place within half a year! HALF A YEAR!! They've been on the air for like a couple of years now. When an Anime feels this draggy it's not worth my time. Especially when I'm collecting the Manga and I don't care about ANY of the characters. Granted in DBZ if you aren't Saiyajin you're worthless, but who wants to be a normal human in that universe anyways!! |
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dzeratul
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Well, the thing is. Meh they have flashbacks. But now adays... The Fillers always have flashbacks. And those are fillers and can't really be accounted for in the conversation. Anyways, if you do think about it -.- There are a lot of flashbacks. |
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Kibamaru
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I have to say that the most obvious similiarity would probably be the long and draggy fights. You might say DBZ has long fights and that means more action, but I notice there reeally isnt any action. The music is crappy and the battle are just normal punches and kicks.
The battles of Naruto are much more creative, and I don't mean the Jutsus, but their tactics. Shikamaru's intelligence in battles never fail to impress. Even though there are similarities, I've read up to the latest Naruto chapters and I feel that Naruto Shippuden has a more original storyline. DBZ = focuses on fights Naruto = focuses on storyline |
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Ataru
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DBZ and Naruto has the same basic thing going on, given that Naruto has slight less fighting. Slight less. As for the music, Dragon Ball Z music was pretty friggn' good for being close to 20 years ago. However, you picking on the English music or the Japanese music?
As for the dead one moment, alive the next thanks to the Dragon Balls, it's Dragon Ball plot. If this happens in Naruto, getting a magical object(s) and get a wish, then there's won't be any point in asking "Why compare DBZ to Naurto?", because the story will be just alike. EDIT: 1989 was the year the first DBZ episode came out, so well over 10 years old. |
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Pleroma
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I was recently rewatching a huge chunk of DBZ and was surprised just how much I enjoyed it. It really was a very good show within the confines of the genre and it always felt a hell of a lot more epic and awsome than Naruto. I actually liked the characters in Naruto a lot, despite Naruto himself being a melodramatic ass more often than not (A shonen character should NOT look like he is about to break into tears every other episode) but the actual fighting never gets to that "WOW" level that DBZ mantains so consistently.
Seriously, give me 30 episodes of Orochimaru just being a bastard and I'll be happy, but considering that now A GODDAMNED THIRD, 1/3 of the show is horrible abysmal filler of retarded (lol, bees) ninjas and using rasengan for absolutely everything ever I really have a hard time even comparing it to DBZ fairly. Hell screw DBZ, Saint Seiya is the absolute king 
This really has nothing to do with Naruto being similar to DBZ, its pretty bad on its own "merit" if you think about it. Hell, Bleach is essentially DBZ with swords and no hyperbolic chamber (lol bankai hax) but I love it because its flashy and epic and the filler is decent. |
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