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Kaioshin_Sama
Joined: 05 Feb 2005
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:39 am
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Yes I love it, we're really going for the discrediting by avatar tactic. This has already progressing faster than I'd anticipated.
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Rederoin
Joined: 29 May 2013
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:52 am
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I hope its going to be better than kyoani's last 4 or so shows. They have been going downhill for a while now.
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Fencedude5609
Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:59 am
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Its amusing how people say things like "KyoAni's been going downhill" without actually bothering to make a real argument.
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Rederoin
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:02 am
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Fencedude5609 wrote: | Its amusing how people say things like "KyoAni's been going downhill" without actually bothering to make a real argument. |
I have been enjoying the shows the make less and less, what more do you want me to say? I'm not here to argue.
I'm in no way saying they are a bad studio, and I know they are capable of making good shows.
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Megiddo
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:20 am
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Little_Hawk wrote: | Reminds me of how Bakemonogatari started. High school guy can heal fast because he's a hybrid (Araragi is part vampire), girl about to jump from rooftop (Senjougahara fell from that ridiculously tall staircase) and she's got supernatural problems (crab problems). |
Here's hoping that there will be actually be substance beyond the first few arcs for Kyoukai no Kanata then.
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DmonHiro
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:26 am
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rederoin wrote: | I have been enjoying the shows the make less and less, what more do you want me to say? I'm not here to argue. |
That's YOUR problem, not a problem with them. Most don't seem to have this "problem".
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Ambimunch
Joined: 30 Aug 2012
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:56 am
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Whoa 2 shows from them in one year :O
At first glance I thought the top picture was of nagato from haruhi and the 4 indicated that its the fourth anime adaptation of the franchise, my heart skipped a beat
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jet_
Joined: 06 Jun 2013
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:28 am
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Ambimunch wrote: | Whoa 2 shows from them in one year :O
At first glance I thought the top picture was of nagato from haruhi and the 4 indicated that its the fourth anime adaptation of the franchise, my heart skipped a beat |
3.
Tamako Market aired in January.
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Apollo-kun
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:33 am
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Fencedude5609 wrote: | Its amusing how people say things like "KyoAni's been going downhill" without actually bothering to make a real argument. |
Because making assumptions based on somebody's avatar is totally a real argument.
*sigh* I come to ANN expecting it to be different from 4chan, yet I'm starting to see the two overlap. Sad day.
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Megiddo
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:34 am
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Pretty sure we'll get Chu2koi 2 before Kyoukai no Kanata.
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HitokiriShadow
Joined: 09 May 2005
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:29 pm
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People complaining that KyoAni needs to take more risks don't understand A) what risks are B) what their projects post-Haruhi movie have been or C) both.
Aku no Hana is not a "risk", that is throwing money into a black hole. Original works are inherently a risk, no matter how "moe" you think they are. Not all "moe" shows sell, many of them sell poorly (especially 4koma adaptations not called "K-On!" or "Hidamari Sketch"). Everything Kyoto Animation has done in the past year has essentially been original (Chu2koi was technically based on a light novel, but one that basically nobody in Japan had read and was not even widely available for purchase prior to airing).
They've also been risks in that they are shows in which Kyoto Animation was far more responsible for financing. For Haruhi, Hyouka and other past shows, they were a contracted studio like pretty much every other animation studio. More recently they've been the ones conceiving and pushing the projects. They're the main rights holders, the main ones pushing the projects, and the ones shouldering the bulk of the financial risk.
Tamako Market was a risk. Chu2koi was a risk. Free is a risk.
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musouka
Joined: 09 Sep 2003
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:38 pm
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I used to be pretty critical of KyoAni, too. But anyone that can't see that it's risky moving away from adaptations and towards mainly animating original IPs is blind.
Hell, for all the talk about how Free! is just K-On with guys, you'd think you'd understand just how risky THAT concept is. Slice-of-life with guys hasn't exactly swept the charts, traditionally, and it's not like they can depend on their previous buying base to welcome the concept with open arms.
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Apollo-kun
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:44 pm
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HitokiriShadow wrote: | Tamako Market was a risk. Chu2koi was a risk. Free is a risk. |
Cutesy antics of cute girls isn't a risk.
Romantic comedy about quirky people isn't a risk.
Shirtless ripped men isn't a risk.
Try harder.
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Fencedude5609
Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:45 pm
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Yes, nice assertions you've got there. Care to back them up with actual sales data?
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Apollo-kun
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:55 pm
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1) Look at the sales data for K-On/Azumanga Daioh/any manga and anime like that. Boom.
2) Look how many anime keeps getting made and selling well about quirky, odd girlfriends/boyfriends. Boom.
3) Straight men like looking at scantily clad women. Straight women like looking at scantily clad men. Common sense, really...
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