Forum - View topicMAPS (movie) ID 693 should be MAPS (OAV)
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Area88
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MAPS (movie) needs correcting to OAV since it was direct to video (even states this on the VHS cover).
Please note this is the 1987 release. Here is my source: AnimeNfo |
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Dan42
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heh. With "original animation video" on the cover, there's not much arguing.
BTW I think this is the first time I actually see OAV being used on an official release. I see OVA all the time, but I was starting to wonder if OAV was simply an invention of american anime fandom. |
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doc-watson42
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That's odd, because the JMDB (which I believe does not list OAVs) includes it, but not the remake. Allcinema ONLINE also lists it as a movie, as opposed to an オリジナルビデオ (original video). Also, you only linked to the ANN Encyclopedia entry, not AnimeNfo. |
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dormcat
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The "OVA" was released on July 21st, 1987, merely a week after its theatrical premiere (1987-07-14). While it's a bit different from most movies (which usually distribute video months later), this didn't change the fact that it was first released as a theatrical movie. In addition to JMDb and Allcinema links provided by doc-watson42, here are several other sources. Each of them is more reliable than AnimeNfo:
Basically, whenever you see company Shochiku (松竹), one of the oldest and most renowned movie distributors in Japan, you can be 99% sure the anime title would be a theatrical movie.
Pffft.  This is comedy gold. Furthermore, the reason why ANN Encyclopedia acts slowlier than AnimeNfo was because we are more cautious and accurate.
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Area88
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Thanks for clearing it up guys and correcting the page.
I'd love to actually see the original MAPS released, i heard it's superior to the remake. |
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Dan42
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Since I can't really read Japanese, those sources don't mean a whole lot to me. The only thing I can see is that it premiered in a theater before the OVA release, but it's not uncommon for OVAs to be screened at a few special events, as a way to drum up interest. One week before the release fits the pattern perfectly. More importantly, how do you explain that "original animation video" is written on the cover? To me that's a lot more authoritative than any site declaring whether it's a movie or OVA. The length is also more in line with an OVA production, and even the Japan wikipedia link you provided seems to classify it as an OVA.
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dormcat
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This is quite surprising to me. As long as I could remember, you have been in Tokyo for over two years.
I agree that those promotional screenings do exist, so I'll take it this time. However, screened by Shochiku means at least 11 theaters across Japan, not just "a theater."
A crossdressing friend of mine has never been performed a single transgender operation. Therefore, no matter how many times he addresses himself as "herself," his male status, either genetic or lawful, would not change. Just kidding (but the story is true). This raises another question: how to you define OVA then? How long between theatrical screening and video release should the screening be considered as "promotional screenings for an OVA" or, on the contrary, the video should be considered "home video for a movie?" A week or two? A month or two? Now I wonder what Dallos Special can be: "special" in title, "OAV" in category, and "movie" in comment. Speaking of OVA/OAV question you've mentioned:
In the beginning OAV was even used in Japan. However, due to confusion with Adult Video and Audio/Video electronics this acronym was gradually abandoned. Only anime magazine by Gakken still uses the term. Not surprisingly, MAPS (1987) and its manga was planned and published by Gakken, respectively.
Length shouldn't be the problem. Tooi Sekai is only a bit over one minute long and is still a movie. |
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Area88
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Anime Jump calls it an OVA from 1987 in the first paragraph of this review.
All the signs seem to point to an OVA release (as already stated runtime is typical of the OVA standard). The title is made in 87, the peak of the OVA boom. I also wouldn't be suprised if it was made on your typical high OVA budget too. |
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Dan42
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I believe the difference between TV/OAV/movie is mainly in the intent. Was it intended for TV, video, or theaters? Most productions can be sharply classified in one of those categories based on release format alone, but sometimes the distinction is fuzzier. MAPS 1987 seems to be at the border between OAV and movie. Since it was released in theater(s?) and video roughly at the same time, we have to look at other factors like number of theatres, length, production budget, etc. Or maybe even ask the producer.
Wow, that's an interesting bit of trivia and it does explain a few things.
There are huge differences between short movies and feature movies. Let's not lump the special cases together with the general/common case. |
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cat_clan
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I have seen that at that time (84 to 89 more or less) it was a common practice for OVAs to be released first in theaters (with a double feature with another OVA) a few days before. For example this happened with Vampire Hunter D, it was released at the same day at theaters (simultenous screening with Genmu Senki Leda) and in stores as an OVA.
I kind of agree with the idea that it should be the original intent which leds to classification, but the problem is that is not that easy to know which was the original intent. The only ways are either to ask the original staff or to find an interview that talks about it. In the case of MAPS is kind of hard, but it seems that the theatrical release was in fact used to promote the OVA release. But the only facts we know for sure is that it was released in theaters before it was released as an OVA. |
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