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Fencedude5609
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:00 pm
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Mohawk52 wrote: | [Isn't that what one does in a forum about anime? Are you also aware that this season's big pull is that the mangaka has been allowed to write the screenplay for it, and that he hasn't added it to the manga continuity, yet, if ever? He's even added a new character to the mix. Japanese critics know of no other production where this has happened. It's the only note worthy part of the whole franchise for me, but still not enough to make me want to watch more of it. |
The point is that there are legions of reasons why Hayate_p is pretty terrible, and you choose to pick on one of the plotpoints where things actually make perfectly logical sense.
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:10 pm
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Fencedude5609 wrote: |
Mohawk52 wrote: | [Isn't that what one does in a forum about anime? Are you also aware that this season's big pull is that the mangaka has been allowed to write the screenplay for it, and that he hasn't added it to the manga continuity, yet, if ever? He's even added a new character to the mix. Japanese critics know of no other production where this has happened. It's the only note worthy part of the whole franchise for me, but still not enough to make me want to watch more of it. |
The point is that there are legions of reasons why Hayate_p is pretty terrible, and you choose to pick on one of the plotpoints where things actually make perfectly logical sense. |
Different strokes for different folks mate.
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Fencedude5609
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:13 pm
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Mohawk52 wrote: | Different strokes for different folks mate. |
No!
Seriously, NO.
Goddamn people around here use this as a dodge far too often.
YOU WERE WRONG. There was no plothole, nothing in that scene was particularly unusual, the show just didn't give you all the information yet, which is a perfectly valid storytelling technique.
You decided to spout off about something you didn't have knowledge about, and I called you on it.
THIS IS NOT AN OPINION. IT IS A FACTUAL MATTER THAT IS EASILY CONFIRMED.
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:30 pm
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Fencedude5609 wrote: |
Mohawk52 wrote: | Different strokes for different folks mate. |
No!
Seriously, NO.
Goddamn people around here use this as a dodge far too often.
YOU WERE WRONG. There was no plothole, nothing in that scene was particularly unusual, the show just didn't give you all the information yet, which is a perfectly valid storytelling technique.
You decided to spout off about something you didn't have knowledge about, and I called you on it.
THIS IS NOT AN OPINION. IT IS A FACTUAL MATTER THAT IS EASILY CONFIRMED. |
You're so easy to wind up. You just can't accept that other people can and do see things in a different light than you and you pop your cork all too eaasily over it. Are they all like you where you live?
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getchman
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:41 am
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Fencedude is right about the desert scene. it makes perfect sense once the story gets back around to it
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potatochobit
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:49 am
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the first season was too long and ended boring
the second season was good, I'm a maria fan
the third season first episode was bad, I'm not motivated to watch the rest yet.
I don't understand why they skipped so much of the comic.
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MaxSouth
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:40 am
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Fencedude5609 wrote: |
MaxSouth wrote: | It is still a mystery to me why they dumped excellent (well, comparing to what we have now anyway) design, animation and cast from the first anime series?
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The cast is exactly the same. |
I mean that some characters missing and the narrative.
So, why they decided to relaunch the franchise?
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Fencedude5609
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:04 am
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MaxSouth wrote: |
I mean that some characters missing and the narrative. |
Err...basically everyone shows up at least briefly
Quote: | So, why they decided to relaunch the franchise? |
They didn't.
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Ingraman
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:39 am
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Fencedude5609 wrote: |
Mohawk52 wrote: |
There's no way a 13 year-old foreign student is going to be allowed to drive a car in America, let alone a BMW into the Arazona desert, so right away the whole story premise is naff, unless of course she stole it, and anyway; a rich girl without a mobile phone with GPS? Yeah right. :roll: |
Actually thats not what happened someone else was driving |
Wasn't it also a Bentley, rather than a BMW? Well, it's been a few weeks, and I don't really want to go back and look at it again...
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MaxSouth
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:45 pm
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Fencedude5609 wrote: |
MaxSouth wrote: |
I mean that some characters missing and the narrative. |
Err...basically everyone shows up at least briefly |
Then you are seeing different version than others.
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Quote: | So, why they decided to relaunch the franchise? |
They didn't. |
Same here.
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Fencedude5609
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:04 pm
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MaxSouth wrote: |
Then you are seeing different version than others. |
Ok, so tell me. Who of even marginal importance was in season 1, but not season 2 or 3?
Continuity, HOW DOES IT WORK!?
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MaxSouth
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:11 am
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Why you are bringing "second" here? It is the third season that relaunched the franchise with unrelated anime studio, character designs, and story that has barely anything to do with the manga. And yes, with no A-tan and narrator.
So I am asking again: what was the reason for all of this? Were there interviews where the publisher or whoever responsible would explain why they thought to it was great thing to do those changes?
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Fencedude5609
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:19 am
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MaxSouth wrote: | Why you are bringing "second" here? It is the third season that relaunched the franchise with unrelated anime studio, character designs, and story that has barely anything to do with the manga. And yes, with no A-tan and narrator. |
Because you are the one who asserted there were cast changes, which...there haven't been. All the characters have the same seiyuu they always have had, which if you don't believe me well, thankfully there's a site full of anime cast information that proves my point.
A-tan was never in any of the anime, so thats an irrelevant point, and the Narrator...yeah, no narrator sucked.
As for the studio, season 1 was SynergySP, season 2 was JC Staff and Season 3 (and now season 4) are Manglobe. Sooo...what was the point here?
Quote: | So I am asking again: what was the reason for all of this? Were there interviews where the publisher or whoever responsible would explain why they thought to it was great thing to do those changes? |
Not as far as I know, but you also seem a little unsure on precisely what happened. The entirety of season 3 takes place well after where the manga is even now, and at several points refers to events that occurred in the manga and were not depicted in either previous season.
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:39 pm
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getchman wrote: |
Fencedude is right about the desert scene. it makes perfect sense once the story gets back around to it |
I'll take your word for it as I've only seen screen shots shown during that interview I mentioned earlier. I don't watch any fansubs.
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MaxSouth wrote: | So I am asking again: what was the reason for all of this? Were there interviews where the publisher or whoever responsible would explain why they thought to it was great thing to do those changes? |
Not as far as I know, but you also seem a little unsure on precisely what happened. The entirety of season 3 takes place well after where the manga is even now, and at several points refers to events that occurred in the manga and were not depicted in either previous season. |
Not surprising as it was the mangaka himself who wrote season 3 as I mentioned earlier as well.
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Fencedude5609
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:39 pm
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Mohawk52 wrote: | I'll take your word for it as I've only seen screen shots shown during that interview I mentioned earlier. I don't watch any fansubs. |
It was streamed on Crunchyroll.
And why the hell are you complaining about plotholes in a show you haven't even watched?
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