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omnistry
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In Episode 23 (the Baseball episode) were the Americans portrayed in the episode played by Japanese voice actors in the original dub; or were actual Americans used?
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huh?
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if i remeber correctly, it was japanes VA's speaking really bad english. so much so that it was almost not undestandable
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abunai
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That's correct. The whole baseball game was an anime in-joke, by the way. It was a reference to an episode of Galaxy Angel. Hmm. Now that twisted thing that I call a mind's eye produced a vision of Mugen in a skimpy negligée. Ugh. - abunai |
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Alex Kramer
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I'm not 100% sure, but I think the "fade to black and white" when the old man and secret agent died was a reference to Gantz.
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v1cious
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all japanese funeral pictures look like that. Last edited by v1cious on Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:50 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Zalis116
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Checking over the episode again, it seems like Cartwright was voiced pretty well, and Doubleday too--listen to the lines where they say, "Whoa! Baseball on a little island in the far East?" "Incredible! The sport of gentlemen comes to the country of savages." Either they were voiced by an American or by a Japanese person with far better than average pronunciation--the various English vowel sounds are good (such as the uh sound of "country," the i sound of incredible, little, and in) and the consonant clusters and consonant word endings don't show the typical "katakanization"; they don't sound like "gentorumen" / "airando" / "ritoru" / "isuto" (east)
Of course, this is the show-offy, roundabout method of evidence...a better way would be to check the credits in the episode for ジョイ アアトライト (Joy Cartwright) and ダブルディー (Doubleday), to find that they are played by "Jamie Schyy" and "Ryan Drees." However, the other soldiers, listed in the credits as 米兵 (beihei, American Soldier) are played by Japanese VAs, so that explains the difference in the spoken English. |
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inuyasha1357
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are you supposed to get emotional over their deaths or was the whole thing just something to laugh at?
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TranceLimit174
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This episode is definitley one of my favorite Champloo episodes. However I don't think anyone died. I think the funeral picture/bell just meant that they were down for the count for the rest of the game. I thought it was a silly joke. And to anyone who's only seen the episode dubbed, if you get the chance watch it subtitled. In the sub version the Americans still speak English and it just makes everything funnier. Just one of those things that got lost in translation to dub (not that it could be helped, it's just one of those things that works in one language and not in the other).
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Stupidman007
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Would've been a great episode.....
but baseball wasn't invented during that time period. Also, if I believe correct, There was no "America" during that time either. |
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TranceLimit174
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I don't believe Samurai Champloo is meant to be historically accurate. In fact the word "Champloo", if I remember correctly, basically means a mixture of all sorts of things. I'm pretty sure the series just tries to (and succeeds) bringing a lot of different things to the table, and I don't believe it concerns itself with historical accuracy (in the first episode I believe there's a disclaimer).
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v1cious
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umm... and neither were sunglasses, metal sandals, and keychains. surely you realize this whole show is an anachronism. Last edited by v1cious on Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:21 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Vortextk
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Stupidman, get a fansubbed version of that episode. They explained quite thoroughly "this was fake", "that was fake", "this was 100 years before it's time", "this person actually did this" etc. None of it was supposed to be historically accurate whatsoever, including pretty much all of the series.
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DarkTenshi90
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I'm pretty sure they knew that it wasn't. The episode itself was actually supposed to be funny, not an actual serious game. Didn't you get the type of vibe from the whole series? That's why I loved it so much. |
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PantsGoblin
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Hmmmm? Really? Wierd. I haven't seen enough of Champloo to get to that episode. Out of any anime though, Champloo would have been one of my last guesses to reference Galaxy Angel. Shinichiro Watanabe is secretly a Galaxy Angel fan like me... Ha ha ha ha |
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Keonyn
Subscriber Posts: 5567 Location: Coon Rapids, MN |
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You don't need a fansub to know it was fake and not based on actual history. How anyone could have gotten so far in the show thinking it supposed to be historically accurate is beyond me.
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