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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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This is my god damn point anime 90% fans are selfish bastards. Let me just finish this for once yeah it's capitalism but the market doesn't work for them do a dub they don't turn a huge profit like funimation. No onwards with my rant anime fans in general are just a bunch people sitting in huge circle jerk waiting for some to jack them off and when they finally get that wish it's not good enough for them. Fans complain about fan-subs ruining the industry then we get legal streaming which gives an option to watch show legally. Fans complain about the streaming be low quailty or then complain about there being no karaoke op/ed's or honorifics in the official subs. Then a show gets licensed on DVD/blu-ray fans bitch about the subs on the dvd/blurays because they are yellow or white with black boarder not colorful like my fan-subs. Then they announce a series is going to be subbed only then everyone complains about their being no dub with no legit reason "that people will say". Then companies announce it's DVD only and the quailty isn't good enough for me, i need more pixels or higher quailty " a pass but still not enough reason to not buy something"... do you see where the fudge I am heading with this logic of the fan-base. Nothing pleases anyone in this damn fan-base anymore so yeah I am going to add to the circle-jerk by bitching on the fan-base. Last edited by Cecilthedarkknight_234 on Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:17 pm; edited 5 times in total |
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Big Hed
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Where's John Casey? I want his take on the KnK rerelease.
Really though, it's great that a mass-market (by Aniplex standards, I assume) release is coming down the pipe, but it's sad it'll be DVD only. Oh, by the way Aniplex, since you're apparently getting into OST releases: how about releasing those for KnK? Last edited by Big Hed on Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:12 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Xanas
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Cecilthedarkknight_234, why do you feel the need to quote everything I wrote instead of just the relevant portions? It's a waste of space.
Now in regards to your rant, I spend thousands of dollars a year on anime. I mostly buy from Funimation these days, since they are the only ones doing what I want on every show. But I do buy Sentai releases when they have what I'm looking for, or if I really love the series I'll buy it hoping they'll dub it later (I did this with Clannad, and it actually worked out strangely enough). I've also bought Aniplex releases when it suited me, such as PMMM, which I was perfectly happy with, even if I thought it was totally uncompetitive, I still did it. But that's because they met the requirements that I had for spending that much, 1) it had a lot of extras, 2) it had BD, 3) it had a dub. I actually didn't need them to meet all 3 of those requirements, but at least 2 of them are important for me to want to spend a ton of dollars more than I'm paying normally. |
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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@Xanas
Okay I fixed it and thank you for pointing out your legit reasons most fans are not that willing to "or the ones I have talked to in forums". |
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One-Eye
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I don't think everybody is selfish. I've bought LEs and I've been happy. I've double dipped for some stuff and I'm happy I did. I think its just that when things start to get to a certain price point people tend to weigh the value of what they are getting. This usually means looking at all the details of what they are getting and placing priorities on the ones that are most important to them. So, some people want a dub, others an artbox is a must, for some BD, etc. This is how people decide if something is worth the price. Its the same thing as buying a car. When I've bought one high priorities were ABS, airbags, etc. Low priorities were like paint color, etc. When its a big investment (car, or big part of your anime budget) its easy to get frustrated when you don't get what you want. At least that's the way I look at it. Then there's the people who are never happy evarr!! But that's a different issue... 
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fireaxe
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Pretty much. Nobody would buy the 2nd super-expensive BD boxset of Fate/Zero if it was known that a cheaper BD-set for the first season is going to be released in 6 months. And that's valid for sales over in Japan, AND import sales through Aniplex USA (which Garden of Sinners proved us, aren't marginal). They found and effective way to make profits, they're not going to shoot themselves in the foot. |
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BigOnAnime
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Basically, he's his own worst enemy. Thanks to people like him, dubs aren't really profitable anymore. Many who want them aren't even attempting to support the companies who need MONEY to dub. Dubbing ain't free. Some of this stuff makes my brain hurt. Seriously, a Blu-ray and a dub can come later. Remember when Clannad was released subbed-only? We later got a dub due to good sales, and later on the Blu-ray. After Story will be on Blu-ray here at some point as well. People should be thankful we're getting this at all. What would you rather have, paying $1000 for the OOP BD on Amazon, or a DVD that may end up having a dub for under $100? I sure as hell will take the later. |
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duomaxwelldoesddr
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Yuki Kajiura definitely brought her A-game when she composed arrangements for KnK. Although I got the OST for the 7th movie when I imported the limited edition of it (only a few months before the LE blurays were announced), I would love to collect the rest and I'm sure many others would as well. |
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lem
 Posts: 734 Location: Land of trying to figure sht out |
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I missed out on buying Garden from TRSI the first time around so this is good news to me.
yes. this and more. You hit it right on the nose. we should always be thankful and appreciate what others work hard to bring for our enjoyment, in whatever language it is. The public "I'm entitled, gimme gimme, you owe me, screw you big meanie Aniplex" type posts here are tiresome. Honestly, who in their right mind wants or needs to see these over and over? If we can have Spoiler Tags, then shouldn't the moderators be able to apply a "SPOILED BRAT" or a " Here's Some Cheese" Tag for these whiny one liners? |
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superdry
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Does it really matter who gets what if the licensor gimps the licensee in what they can release? I really doubt that Aniplex JP would give BD rights to Sentai or Funimation if they seriously wanted the license. |
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nx6
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KnK is not native HD. Only the final chapter (Epilogue) was. The rest are upconverts. Ask any of the pirating groups that did encodings of the JDM BD set. People encoded them because the BD release allowed MUCH more video bandwidth for better quality and didn't have the artifacts the DVDs had. |
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ikillchicken
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This rhetoric is completely transparent. You're intentionally ignoring the fact that we're getting an inferior DVD version in order to frame this as some sort of utterly inconceivable action that makes literally no sense. That's just deliberately manipulative though. You know full well why people are complaining. They wanted a BD, not a DVD. You don't have to agree with that complaint but pretending to be oblivious to it entirely is just dishonest.
I'm happy about plenty of things. So are most if not all of the other complainers I'm sure. Hence, this criticism really does not apply. Unless of course you're suggesting people shouldn't complain about anything which is simply absurd.
You need to stop using that word, "entitled". It has become an empty buzzword to be tossed at any complaint you don't like and has lost any real meaning. Obviously I'm not "entitled" to a BD. I am entitled to spend my money as I please however and I most certainly choose not to spend it on a company that expects me to settle for an inferior version of their product just so they can gouge people on the better version.
This is a false dilemma. Just because I object to the lack of an affordable BD release hardly means I must be saying I wish we weren't getting a DVD either.
Again, a false dilemma. You make it sounds like a super expensive BD and a cheap DVD are simply the only possible options. Why though? Why should we be forced to settle for such an unpleasant choice?
Say what you will about the complainers. the amount of whiny butthurt in this post is by far as bad as any of them. It's just differently directed. |
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gothicangel89
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Seriously? Just Blu-ray release? I have to let you know that not ALL anime fans own a blu-ray player, especially me. All I ever use to watch anime is my laptop. That's all. |
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GATSU
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Shanafan:
Well, if you wanna be a sucker, that's your problem. But that kind of money could've gone to companies who actually need it.
No, but you're entitled to fair prices reflecting actual demand for the show in that format, rather than overinflated numbers which have no bearing on what it would cost to release it.
Yeah, but people supported Clannad, because ADV/Sentai was in dire straits, and it might never get another R1 release. Aniplex is on better financial footing, and can release its stuff in line with R1 prices. But they lied about it, because they wanted to make a quick buck. blaize:
Yeah, but then they can't jack up demand for a show which probably sell poorly or average under different circumstances. 
BTW, what did I say about how they probably have an overstock of this shit, but they tried to spin it as a limited run, in order to justify higher prices? blaize:
Um, they're a subsidy of Sony. 050709:
Probably. No one would buy it otherwise. One-Eye:
Especially since North Americas at least get to stream KnK before they decide they like it.
The Italians have a shitty economy coupled with a larger consumer base for anime. takash:
Worked for Bandai Visual. Too bad their parting gift was taking down Bandai Entertainment with them. 
Megiddo:
Sure they do. That's why they simulcast Kenshin.
But their price for R.O.D. on Blu-Ray still blows. fireaxe:
And I definitely wouldn't have bought the first volume of Madoka if I knew it was streaming on Crunchyroll. Aniplex knows this, which is why it's trying to collect before enough people catch on. |
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Dakaran
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WTB blu-rays because that's the only release I missed badly and the only show I paid above 700$ in my life is Macross Frontier >.<
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