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ikillchicken
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:26 pm
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Quote: | Hollywood is once again trying to indoctrinate our children. |
Of course, it's actually not a Hollywood movie at all. It was made in Japan, by Japanese people, first and foremost for Japanese people. Hence, his theory is not just questionable but downright factually wrong. Of course, that's nothing new for fox.
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Shenl742
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:33 pm
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Oh my jesus this is dumb...
...but hey, any publicity is good publicity...even if it's the dumb, uninformed kind
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asimpson2006
Joined: 13 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:33 pm
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Stay classy there Fox News. I never took them seriously and this article just proves this even more.
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SaiyanHero16
Joined: 23 Jan 2010
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Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:33 pm
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Dear Fox, you obviously don't know what anime is, so please don't use it further your own biased agenda.
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SoandSo
Joined: 13 Feb 2010
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:33 pm
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lolwot? Oh, Dobbs, you big silly. Next they'll dig up Mononoke and attack its message of breaking down boundaries and respecting nature as a place for all to co-exist for sponsoring socilalism and immigration.
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The Mad Manga Massacre
Joined: 15 Jul 2009
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:34 pm
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This is so dumb it's almost laughable.
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partially
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
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Location: Oz
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:36 pm
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Arrietty had a green energy message? I don't think it even really had any environmental message. If it was directed by Miyazaki it probably would of had an obligatory scene or two though, maybe that is what confused the poor fellow.
Or possibly he thinks that having a big garden on a suburban house is an environmental message. We should do away with our trees!
Way to show that you haven't even watched these films though.
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Bargain Hunter
Joined: 07 Mar 2009
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:37 pm
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Well, my daily quota of being exposed to extreme retardation has been filled. Thanks, Fox!
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st_owly
Joined: 20 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:37 pm
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Fox News is one of my favourite comedy channels
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Surrender Artist
Joined: 01 May 2011
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:37 pm
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For the benefit of anybody who is British or has some understanding of British newspapers, any news organization with FOX in its name is more or less a television equivalent of the Daily Mail. And Lou Dobbs is a cuddlier, less overt and less eloquent rough analogue of Enoch Powell.
Yeah, I've been reading some WikiPedia. Want a fight about it?
(Mercy do I hope not; I'm about as scrappy and pugnacious as a kitten)
Besides the obvious dunderheadedness of referring to The Secret World of Arriety as a Hollywood production and ignoring that it's an adaptation of a much older book, the idea that entertainment can politically indoctrinate children is silly. Entertainment is far more reflective than prescriptive. I was 'indoctrinated' to a host of things as a child that I have rejected in my 'old age'. (It's not, but I'm on the internet and have always had the bitterness and sense of failure of a much older man) This is inanity on the level of thinking that anime causes suicide.
I don't know what the film adaptation of The Lorax will be like, it looks abominable, but the book, if I recall correctly, was fairer minded and more thoughtful than Dobbs and company would ever dare give it credit for.
Hollywood might be trying to indoctrinate our children, but Lou Dobbs is surely trying to waste our time.
I haven't listened to the discussion because, well, I have some knives her that I could force into my vital organs and that seems likely to be more productive and educational.
(Okay, I lied, a kitten once beat the shit out of me for taking its spot on the sofa)
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Dessa
Joined: 14 Jul 2004
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:39 pm
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Oh, Faux News... Ignoring the fact that a) It's not a Hollywood movie, b) It's based on a book series, c) Said book series has been out for something like 30 years, and d) Said book series has been adapted many times before.
It seems he thinks this is a brand new thing.
(note that I didn't watch the video, as it didn't load for me, this is based off the article).
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Big Hed
Joined: 04 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:40 pm
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Get me 10ccs of Jon Stewart, stat!
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Saffire
Joined: 25 Nov 2007
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:42 pm
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Good thing Fox is here to stand up for the oppressed and downtrodden. Who knows what might happen if people actually thought green energy policies were a good idea!
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NotintheMood
Joined: 11 Feb 2012
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:44 pm
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What's wierd is that he stating all this as if these are new ideas that have never been introduced to children before.
The Lorax is a remake of a 1972 cartoon I remember watching as a child and I clearly remember reading both the Lorax and all of the borrowers books. The Lorax predates the the occupy movement by 30 years, while the Borrowers predates it by 50 years.
Does he think that books have no impact and it only becomes important when Hollywood (Ghibi via Disney) releases a movie?
And I haven't looked it up, but I bet that both these movies were in pre-production long before occupy wall street. Companies remaking and adapting older properties is business as usual not some sort of conspiracy of propaganda.
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Chagen46
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:48 pm
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It's telling that my first response to this article was "Fox is being Fox again".
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