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Claus_Valca
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I am wondering about the 3-disc import sets that are commonly shipped by marketplace vendors at amazon.com and ebay. Are these sets bootlegged copies of the original?
Any knowledge would be appreciated. thanks Last Exile Rocks |
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Ulthrion
Posts: 40 Location: The Netherlands |
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eBay, marketplaces etc don't care much about whether or not they sell bootlegs, or original copies, as long as they make a profit. In addition, 3 disc import sounds very fishy. From what I know, the highest number of volumes on one legit disc I've ever seen legit was 5, so a 3 disc set could never contain a 16+ episode series. As a guideline, if the discs contain more than 5 episodes, you;re almost garatueed it's bootleg. More than that I really don't know, as I have had the luck of not encountering any bootlegs at all. Farseer Ulthrion |
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kacper
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while I agree that it sounds "fishy", more than 5 episodes on one disc happened even in the US, see Fruits Basket from funimation. anyways, yeah.
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RS4NT_786
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Unfortunately, I've had some experience with bootlegged anime DVD's from ebay...
There are a few legitimate sellers, but most of them are bootleggers. The differences between bootlegs and legit DVDs are quite obvious - the most obvious being that they are sold as part of a 3-disk set. An example would be NGE - it has been released by ADV on 8 disks but is being sold on ebay in a 3 disk set for the entire series, and a 4 disk set for the series and both movies. Also look out for Region 0 dvds, especially since legit DVDs usually have a region code of 1 (america) or 2 (europe, japan). Some bootlegs have their company's logo on them - FX, Manga International and Manga Animation Cartoon are some of the companies that deal in bootlegs. Their logos are normally visible on the spine of the case, so see if you can get some images of those when thinking about a purchase. Last but not least, i can list the names of some sellers on ebay who sell bootlegs. Whatever you do, don't buy from Animetan, r.evil2 or animehitsuk. These sellers sell only bootlegs, but there are many others who sell them too, so please take note of their characteristics. I hope that I may have been of some help to you. |
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gundamlion
Posts: 48 Location: the Bebop, room of rah, jaburo(choose your fav!) |
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these is really good info, thanks |
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Key
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Posts: 18529 Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley) |
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The first DVD volume of Key The Metal Idol had 7 full episodes, and the second DVD volume had 6, and both were regular releases. I have never seen 8 full-length eps on one DVD that wasn't a bootleg, however. |
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kusanagi-sama
Posts: 1723 Location: Wichita Falls, TX |
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The official release of Fruits Basket is a 6/6/7/7 setup.
The official 8 DVD re-release of Fushigi Yuugi TV series is a 7/6/7/6/7/6/7/6 setup |
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.Sy
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If you can't tell if something's a bootleg, I'd suggest clicking that "Spotting Bootlegs" sticky at the top of the retail forum. It gives good, in depth info on some of the trickier aspects such as fake holographic stickers.
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Dagwood
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When I first 'got into' anime I unknowingly bought a 3-disc Cowboy Bebop (blatantly obvious bootleg) set from Amizon's Marketplace . After I came to ANN I read up on it and I can gladly say I haven't repeated my mistake. Last edited by Dagwood on Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:41 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Zalis116
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Posts: 6902 Location: Kazune City |
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The first two seasons of Sailor Moon dubbed had 12 discs * 6 episodes + 2 discs * 5 episodes, the ADV subbed releases had 6 and 5, the S and Super S by Pioneer had 7 on 2 discs, 6 on all the rest (except for SS vol 7 that had 3). . .Kare Kano disc 1 had 6, the sub only releases of Sakura Diaries, Seraphim Call, and Sentimental Journey are all 6/6, Video Girl Ai was 6 eps on 1 disk. And, let's not forget the wonderful Pokemon Orange Islands discs that had 12 . There might be others, but in general, the best cutoff number is 7--it's very unlikely that a legit release will have 8 or more. Extra Note: FLCL on one disk is a bootleg--the legit release is 3 disc, even though it's 6 episodes.
Most 12-13 ep series on 2 discs will also be bootlegs, with the exceptions noted by me and the other posters. |
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Anime^fangirl^shenlu
Posts: 6 Location: United kingdom |
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Quite a few of my anime series are from ebay and are mostly 3 disc sets (I don't have much money to spend on thousands of seperate volumes, see) And all the ones that I own are okay. If buying off ebay just be careful and research the seller in depth first Usually try to use power sellers and check their feedback
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Asuka
Posts: 118 Location: Burlington, NJ |
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Shenlu, those are bootlegs.
http://www.jazzmess.com/merch/bootlegfaq.html That explains a lot about bootlegs. You seem to be forgetting that anime isn't a necessity, try prioritizing instead of wasting your money on knockoffs. |
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tenchidragon
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God,i hope not because i saw Revelutionary Utana and it only cost 39 $.Plus it had the movie with it.The same friend let me borro Cowboy Bebop and it was like that to.But i would never buy it like that.It looks trashy on your self.LOL
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Claus_Valca
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Thank you for all of the information, it is unfortunate that bootlegging is so rampant. It makes you wonder…What if nobody bootlegged? Would the prices of anime go down? Just a thought. I also have a moral question if anyone is interested. I just finished watching Samurai Champloo (all 26 eps. fansubbed (I know, I know)). However, I own all volumes available in the US and intend to purchase the rest as they become available, so any thoughts on morality of said issue?
P.S. (To Dagwood)
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Zalis116
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Posts: 6902 Location: Kazune City |
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The prices probably wouldn't go down because they're set according to what the market will bear and what they need to charge to make a profit after production/licensing costs.
I think you're excersising correct morality on Samurai Champloo--really, that's sort of the fansub ideal, that people will download shows fansubbed, then buy the DVDs to support the industry after the fansub popularity draws attention to the show. Does it always happen? No, but I'm doing the same thing with Scrapped Princess, since I saw it on fansub last year and am now buying the DVDs as they come out. And another general sermon on anime morality: As Shibahime said, it's not a necessity, but if you have your mind made up to procure anime illegally, then download it; don't buy bootlegs. Not only is it cheaper for you, but you're not contributing to the Chinese Mafia and their drug/prostitution/gambling/weapons operations. It's still stealing, and it still hurts the US and Japanese anime industries, but at least it doesn't help criminals make a profit. |
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