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enurtsol
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Maybe. Still, Akamatsu seems a progressive international-thinking beyond-Japan kind of guy, so wouldn't put it past him. |
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Mizuki-Takashima
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isn't there like...three different ways of writing the word "manga" in Japanese, and that each different way has their own connotations? I'm pretty sure somebody mentioned that in the manga-styled-comics debate thread...
regardless of whether or not N. American Artists can produce authentic manga, I still hate the phrase "manga-style" so very much. It heavily implies that all manga has to have big eyes/spikey hair/whateverbullsh*t when manga has so many other styles to offer! There's techniques that's universally used in manga- but technique creates different styles. (which is why Pokemon & Death Note's manga don't look alike! If they did look alike, then and only then would they share a "style") When will people learn? @ A @ |
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configspace
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Like I mentioned before, comics is a more general term, as a superset of manga, so that usage makes sense. manga, manhua, manhwa are all comics, BUT not all comics are manga, etc. If they are all the same, they would use them interchangeably in any direction, yet they themselves definitely don't. Again, aside from the fact that "manga" was already coined and in use way before the introduction of Western comics, they wouldn't be asking this question if there was no distinction. And that distinction has been quite clear-cut as simply based on country of origin--specifically language and publication. It's ridiculous to call a DC comic a manga, manhua, or manhwa. And the local Japanese or Korean or Chinese would NEVER think you're talking about an American comic if you ask for such. However, if you ask for a store selling "comics" then they might ask what kind specifically. Now, much the same with anime, there's a popular style or certain stylistic methods originating from and associated with manga, so much so we might rationally call a comic manga-influenced or even manga-"style". I do think though, that "OEL manga" is a better term than manga-style since the style itself can vary a lot. It's much the same why there's manhwa vs manga even when both share the same styles, with the only thing distinguishing the terms --unambiguously--is simply country of origin. Maybe we need to come up with another term like Manka or Manika if you want something more specific yet distinguishable. It's analogous to "Bollywood" vs "Hollywood". Even if there's no break-out dancing and singing that popularized Bollywood, if it was downright serious with multiple ethnicities, set in another location the Indian film would STILL be a Bollywood film. And a Hollywood film mimicking that previously popular Bollywood film would still be a Hollywood film |
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maaya
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From my experience I'm not so certain about this. There might be people who don't, but others certainly do (and so does any definition given in dictionaries), because if you tell them that you read manga, they understand it as "read any kind of comic" and you will have to specify that you talk about "Japanese comics".
I don't believe they do, apart from the "feeling" the "font" conveys (f.ex. katakana = italic, hiragana = soft). I've seen all of them used in your average manga-cafe or bookstore or in the books / magazines themselves. I believe each of them will use whichever the owner/editor thought looked best.
Of course you're right, but most foreign readers never really get to know that. And for sure aborad what is known as the "standard manga style" is much more popular than any other, which reflects directly in the sales. If all Josei oder Seinen series were drawn like average shojo or shonen ones, they'd sell a lot more. |
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Mizuki-Takashima
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I suppose that's true, though I was mostly thinking about this when I was asking:
I personally have no idea what (漫画), (マンガ) or (まんが) means though, 'cept that they all spell manga u_u (Unless its like that thing you said before)
Sigh, sad but true. Still, I think a lot of it has a lot of it has to do with demographics too. Shounen & Shoujo, besides an appeal in style, end up becoming popular because most anime/manga fans fall into those age groups. That and I don't think that many Josei get licensed here in the states, but there's a few Seinen titles that have become popular, such as Death Note. Still, your explanation explains why so many generic shonen & shoujo titles become popular again and again, so long as they "look" like they're on the cover of Shonen Jump/Shoujo Beat, etc |
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