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As for "wincest" and incest's recent popularity, I'd suspect the reasons to be roughly the same in Japan and America.

Blood- wrote:

Dargonxtc wrote: vashfanatic wrote: I blame it all on the low birthrate. The idea of a cute younger sibling who looks up to you with dewy and calls you big bwutha and wuvs you so much! has an appeal, and because more and more young people in Japan are only children, they (1) don't get automatically squicked by the idea and (2) don't understand that little siblings are actually really, really annoying. Wow, you know, I've known about the low birthrate and the various problems that have arisen from it in Japan for well... a very, very long time. But I have never thought about it from this perspective. You know what? It makes a hell of a lot of sense. Whereas to me that notion seems incredibly facile. I caution anyone from drawing any sociological conclusions about a culture you are either not born into or do not have extensive firsthand experience with, and I especially caution anyone from spinning sociological theories based on products created for an incredibly niche audience.

No one is trying to prove conclusive evidence or universal truths with you, you twit. It is something that simply makes sense on a basilar level. In the last ten years very few of the foreign exchange students that I come over have had siblings, from my experience at least. It doesn't make it true, but it makes you think, right? You can think right? That's rhetorical, I know you can. I am not saying it is true, I am saying it makes sense on a 'topographical' viewpoint... from real life experiences. Again, not endorsing the idea, but think it may be a player. It may be part of the sociological demographic of a trending culture. It may not have studies, but to me the simplicity of the statement at least made it an option. Japan's birth rate deficiency is not only well documented, but I have seen it in by students being a single sibling for years, and in the majority. It is at the very least something that could be looked into, and not really outrageous.

As far as being "niché", look at the past 60 years and those words. How many of those trends became "mainstream" (or fairly popular).

Basically, don't be a spaz and over judge. It just leads to un-righteousness and pretentiousness accompiened by an overdeveloped sense of self-esteem that is based on one being heard.

Personally, I don't care, but I ignore your presence usually after I read the first three sentences. At the same time you have moments of brilliance, so take it as it is.

I am not saying it is true, I am saying it makes sense on a 'topographical' viewpoint... from real life experiences. Again, not endorsing the idea, but think it may be a player. It may be part of the sociological demographic of a trending culture.

You know what? It makes a hell of a lot of sense.

I've seen the "low-birthrate - incest trend in anime" argument before and the problem with not challenging it is if it gets repeated enough times then it becomes majority received opinion. There are lots of countries (virtually all of the developed world, in fact) that have experienced lowered birth rates. Is the supposition there that this has resulted in an increased interest in incest themes? Or is this something we can ascribe solely to those "wacky" Japanese?

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Blood- wrote:

I've seen the "low-birthrate - incest trend in anime" argument before and the problem with not challenging it is if it gets repeated enough times then it becomes majority received opinion. There are lots of countries (virtually all of the developed world, in fact) that have experienced lowered birth rates. Is the supposition there that this has resulted in an increased interest in incest themes? Or is this something we can ascribe solely to those "wacky" Japanese?

Or to put it slightly differently: "Low-birthrate may be one factor contributing to incest in anime/manga, but it's not sufficient as the only explaining factor."

Etrien wrote:

As for "wincest" and incest's recent popularity, I'd suspect the reasons to be roughly the same in Japan and America.

And yet, it's not popular in American media.
Well, save for that episode of Family Guy and Star Wars.

Why would a sibling relationship appeal at all to people without siblings in the first place?

You can easily make a story with girls who look up to and are borderline obsessed with the main character without them being the main character's sister (i.e. "senpai" relationship).

The whole wincest theme isn't necessary if that obsessed sort of relationship is the goal.

And your theory doesn't explain older sister stories, either.

Olivine wrote:

Why would a sibling relationship appeal at all to people without siblings in the first place?

You can't be that clueless.

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And your theory doesn't explain older sister stories, either.

Which theory?

I blame it all on the low birthrate. The idea of a cute younger sibling who looks up to you with dewy and calls you big bwutha and wuvs you so much! has an appeal, and because more and more young people in Japan are only children, they (1) don't get automatically squicked by the idea and (2) don't understand that little siblings are actually really, really annoying.

This is such a melodramatic crap. There's BL, hentai, ecchi, GL, incest, and others, so if you don't like it, keep away. I also find most BL disgusting, but it's not like I'm over there criticizing it for doing what it's best at, gay sex, am I?