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stararnold
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Although I understand that certain Anime and Manga are not meant to be seen by kids and find homosexuality to be a non-kid friendly and unatural scenario, I have to say that I'm on the side that opposes the youth ordinance bill, concerning about what will become of Anime if that bill gets through. No offense. For all you know, the high loss of creative freedom may lead to the disbandement of the entire Anime industry, or at least the part of it that specializes in animation intended entirely for grown-ups. Plus, it won't make any sense for anyone to stay in the field if he/she longer has the freedom to make what he/she wants to make, concerning the matter of integrity.
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jsyxx
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That attitude that its a non-kid friendly scenario is what has lead many gay kids to being terrorized in school and subsequently committing suicide. Its utterly ridiculous to think there is any real danger to the acceptance of homosexuality in the school system. Don't like it? You have Chrsitian private schools as your alternative. Some people against it though are perverts and can only associate gay sex, and sex in general to homosexuality when they absolutely do not do the same with heterosexuality being exposed to their children. |
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JackCox
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If the entire Democratic Party opposes it the Bill is Dead by a few votes.
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Adonisus
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Honestly, this isn't as big a shock considering the source.
Shintaro Ishihara is infamous for being and absolute nationalist sh*thead and is infamous for spouting off retarded and often gravely offensive statements that he later has to apologize for publicly. This stuff actually pales in comparison to the stuff he's said about foreigners, which is about as racist as it can get. |
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Kaibaman21
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Guh....now this is becomming just like our Government but to a whole new level. This guy opposes Marriage in general and using the Gays is taking over the world card to support this??? This guy is a freaking PRICK. If you want to support a bill like this, use intelligence man say why you support it, NOT IN THIS STUPID Way. That shows how STUPID THIS BILL IS.
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ZipZapZopTitania
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I was on the main page, and I seriously cracked up when I realized what "'homosexuals' on TV" meant.
... If this bill gets passed...Governor Ishihara is doomed to death by yaoi fangirl! *gets popcorn* |
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GWOtaku
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Whoa, why the heck are you dragging Yamato into this? |
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configspace
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Ironically, if he did turn back to the "stone age" figuratively speaking, he would've had a hell of a shock.
Um, no, most people there "don't hate it as much as every other normal person would." Ishihara is just an ass. He's made a lot of controversial and bigoted statements in the past. Regarding liberalism and conservatism there, something not covered in most history texts and not widely known, is how traditionally from the very beginning up until the mid 1800's, Japan was very liberal in this respect and many other areas. So much so that: "European explorers and merchants bristled at the “loose morals” and “depravity” of their hosts." But it's not that they actively strove to be "liberal" either -- these matters were simply treated as 'normal' and 'no shame in'. A lot of these socially conservative attitudes in Japan today, the kind you cite, are a byproduct of westernization. Heck it's not just with homosexuality like I alluded to earlier; for example there was a written european account admiring their pursuit of cleanliness while abhorring the fact that men and women bathed together, as all public onsens were mixed gender back then I think part of that psyche, that cultural mentality that was there before, still lingers subconsciously and is reemerging today actually. Some modern concepts viewed as libertine and themes like yaoi, yuri, host clubs, hostess clubs, traps and the whole shebang actually have deep historical roots. |
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The Mad Manga Massacre
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Has a date been decided for when they will vote on the proposed bill? The suspense is killing me.
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matrixdude
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And this is why nothing gets done. They debate and repropose this endlessly while building new highways, while avoiding actual social issues. Like a negative birth rate. Or how some elderly that are dead haven't been reported. Or how many pensions and retirement is spent on pachinko parlors. Or the sheer amount of porn that comes out each year........ How does a bill like this make a priority over all the other issues they have?
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captainbanana
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I think the governors comments about homosexuals are abhorrent, and his views on "depictions of marital sex" are hilarious, but we (we being the Americans reading this) are fooling ourselves if we think that most of our elected officials don't share the same view point (on homosexuality at least). The difference here is that political correctness generally keeps them from speaking their minds.
Bigotry knows no borders. I'm not gay, but the treatment of gays I saw during high school was enough to make me sympathetic to anyone that has to put up with that from other children, much less from a full grown adult with real power over their lives. |
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Dark Paladin X
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Agree on that, Japan is actually quite tolerant towards gays and lesbians, if not, more tolerant than many western nations (because they really don't see homosexuality as a religious or moral sin). However, Japanese society aren't really keen on publicly displaying your relationship in the public, as the see sexual and romantic relationships between two people to be more of a personal thing. Note that this kind of attitude applies to both homo and heterosexual relationships in Japan. It is probably agreed upon historians that the expanding western influence around the world during the age of Imperialism could be reason of the intolerance towards homosexuality on societies that were once tolerant towards it. Many of the western values were adopted during the Meiji Restoration, which drastically changed Japanese society as a whole. Also, in regards to "liberalism" in Japan, Japan is actually economically and politically conservative by western standards. The Liberal Democratic Party is really quite comparable to the Republican party in the United States (excluding the social issues). The LDP party name mostly refer to classical liberalism instead. |
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stararnold
Posts: 227 Location: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada |
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One thing I should have mentioned is that anyone supporting the bill probably lost sight that Eiren, the Japanese equivalent of the Motion Picture Association of America (or MPAA for short), still lives on to indicate what's suitable for minors and what's not. While Eirin's certifications are G, PG-12, R-15, and R-18, T.V. Anime and OVA Anime follow this system too. Therefore, working on the bill is indeed a big waste of time and will cause more harm than good if it gets launched.
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