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mangamuscle
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If you mean in the same sense Compact Discs will continue to work on new BD players, yeah, as I have mentioned I have some DVD collections and will probably will continue to have them even when no big studios does new releases in said format.
Hold your horses, I can buy writable BD for less than a dollar! Even if DVDs are cheaper, you can no longer label Blu ray discs as expensive. Besides, any quality DVD release uses double layers discs, so if you don't want video to look jerky you need also DL and then the price difference becomes negible (a dollar vs 60 cents, where the dollars gives you high definition! give me a break ).
If what you are trying to say is that you can compress HD video to fit into a DVD, sorry to burst your bubble, but said media is not considered a DVD since no DVD player will show you the video, it needs a Blu ray player, as simple as that, it is no longer part of the DVD technology some people do not want to let go. |
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Polycell
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Touma
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That is not a factor, not even a minor concern, because the DVDs will not be trash. One reason why I think that the DVD will be around for a long time is that they can be played in a Blu-ray player. Even when DVD players are no longer made at all the DVD discs will be as good as ever.
And the big publishers make hundreds of thousands of discs. I think that the profit margins on home video sales are rather slim, so there definitely is an incentive for the publishers to keep using DVD discs. As long as DVDs are cheaper than Blu-rays there will be people who are willing to buy them, and companies that are willing to sell them. Even people who have Blu-ray players will buy a DVD for some things. |
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mangamuscle
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It seems you fail to realize that the quote you are linking is for a company that does small scale DVD and Blu-ray replication (and obviously charges a premium for bluray). As Touma has said, even anime publishers make more than a thousand copies, anything less is a flop. Big companies have their replication machines and they produce ten of thousands (a hundred thousand for big hits) and the only cost difference in production is the price of the media (and as I pointed earlier, it can be as little as 40 cents of a a dollar). So no, any price difference you see is mostly artificial price gauging of blurays or price reduction to clean stocks of DVDs. Just like parallel transmission of SD and HD TV broadcast signals, it will not last forever (two year tops). |
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Polycell
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Those low production runs magnify the cost-per-unit, but they still illustrate the gap well: a 10000 unit run costs $8600, cases included, for DVD9s while the same quantity in retail-ready BD25s sets you back $18400, with AACS fees still left to pay. Yes, big studios get the lowest unit price there is for BDs, but even little differences in unit prices add up rapidly across such large runs.
As for your last bit of rationalization, no, DVDs aren't being liquidated and BDs aren't being gouged - one is subject to AACS licensing fees, the other simply isn't. |
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Cptn_Taylor
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Well don't you have to pay a CSS license as well when making a dvd ? Of course you do. I think the important part is this : with dvd the producer has the CHOICE of making a pressed dvd that has or hasn't CSS (wether CSS is completely borken at this point is irrelevant to the discussion). With blu-ray you don't get that choice anymore. Any pressed blu-ray has to have AACS enabled. Even if you want to sell unprotected commercial blu-rays you simply can't. So AACS has to be paid wether you want it or not. It's a fixed cost and quite hefty too and of course it impacts the most the blu-rays that have a very low print runs among which you find anime blu-rays. |
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enurtsol
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Just to clear some previous misconceptions here, Microsoft's 360 in 2008 and Sony's PS3 division achieved profitability in 2010.
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agila61
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Except the CSS license fee is included in that $8,600 quote for a 10,000 unit run. so it remains appropriate to say that the $18,400 is the quote "with AACS fees left to pay". |
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