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Pretty sure with these last two cases establishing precedent, all UK fans are now at risk. Especially with imported anime or manga from either Japan or US. However, it appears from the article, just accessing websites that are legal elsewhere puts you in danger.
...which should have nothing to do with law. But given that manmade law is almost entirely based on personal beliefs of the collective, you always end up with this kind of injustice. |
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WSJ4L
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The hell? So doesn't this mean UK fans can't own anime like Highschool DxD and High School of the Dead, as that has girls exposing themselves?
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Blanchimont
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Hell, if those are the guidelines, having a single volume of Seven Seas' Dragonar Academy would get the book thrown at you. Let's not even talk about visual novels... Ironic as it's a UK retailer I use for both...
Uh...
Hope there's some way this ruling doesn't hold. Otherwise... To people in UK, hone your skills in encrypting content on your hard-drives, keep safe and sane online and try use local retailers for import goods to avoid Customs... |
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Minami-Asakura
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Yes. The law has always been made and twisted by man bases on their personal beliefs and the persona invoking it. |
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Kutsu
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The usual nonsense. Did anyone suffer the consequences of this man's doings ? No ? Then no need to punish him in such a paternalistic fashion in the name of some kind of superior morality.
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GateCrusherDX
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfSIDrMR3cw
For those who use the "it doesn't hurt anyone" or "it isn't real" argument. Cue people calling me a prude/conservative at 3...2....1. |
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Minami-Asakura
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As always, imaginary children in much in need of protection.
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hellsingfan01
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what the actual fudge
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TD912
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That's the same argument used against video games. Replace "sexual activity with children" with "people getting shot" or any other kind of crime. They're persecuting people for the way they think, not for any harm they actually have done to other people. |
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Minami-Asakura
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Following the same logic the whole tv should be banned from our lives, oh but wait, mainstream entertainment that has powerful people and corporations behind them and what they produce cannot be bullied
I wanna see someone prosecuted because of Hollywood movies or tv and set a precedent that they are bad influence
Well, the USA people has some kind of fixation with arms and believing they are a holy right to have and use. You can take anything away from them but not arms, arms are sacred. |
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GateCrusherDX
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Yeah, comparing that to indecent images of children(doesn't matter if they are real or not, it's the images themselves representing children) is pretty dumb. |
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Ryu Shoji
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Which makes this all the more confusing, because both are legally available to buy in stores, uncut (with the former having a 15 certificate and the latter an 18).
To be honest, this is an interesting point. Although punishing someone for starting what might be seen as others as a slippery slope, just doesn't sit with me. I'd be quite interested in seeing research that looks into whether there is any link that can be made between such material and a possible rise in actual sexual crimes against minors. |
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Minami-Asakura
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You should go to therapy or seek help if you think those imaginary-fictional stuff, not matter what its portrayed, can influence you to commit the same/similar acts. You are simply judging from your moral grounds, nothing else and nothing more. If you wanna be an ultra moralist, be my guest, I dont give a cent, but dont come imposing your moralistic views on to all of us. Last edited by Minami-Asakura on Sun Oct 19, 2014 3:31 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Blanchimont
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Doesn't matter, really? one is images of real children which hurts the subjects of those. The other is imaginary drawings with no victims. The difference is quite clear. If you're going to troll, go troll elsewhere... And yes, the comparison of violence in entertainment fiction, and imaginary lolicon images is quite valid. Neither makes a normal sane person do those things in real life. And if the opposite exists, it works for both as well... Last edited by Blanchimont on Sun Oct 19, 2014 3:33 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Kutsu
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I wouldn't say prude or conservative but perhaps a bit ignorant regarding the complexety of the issue at hand. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/opinion/pedophilia-a-disorder-not-a-crime.html?_r=0
The debate now is to which types of behaviors do we decide to hold a pedophile responsible and guilty. Personally, I think punishing them for being attracted to drawings of young girls and/or children is going slightly too far. |
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