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INTEREST: Gundam Creator Tomino Praises & Criticizes Attack on Titan Manga


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DmonHiro





PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:15 am Reply with quote
Trying hard to stay relevant, eh, Tomino? What was the last super-successful things you did again?
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ShatteredWorld



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:18 am Reply with quote
I'd agree with him, based on the one volume I've read, that the manga's art is...stiff.

But this just comes off as the irrelevant taking shots at the relevant.
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Animeking1108



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:20 am Reply with quote
DmonHiro wrote:
Trying hard to stay relevant, eh, Tomino? What was the last super-successful things you did again?


Why is it that when a creator of a popular work bashes another popular work, it means they're "trying to be relevant?" Maybe not everyone thinks AOT is this perfect series. At least I don't. The hype freaken killed it for me. It's like the "Breaking Bad" of anime. People never shut up about it to the point where non-viewers want to avoid it.
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DmonHiro





PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:24 am Reply with quote
Because usually, that IS the reason. People who have been out of the spotlight for a while will try different things to get back, and Tomino's last work (sort of) were the Z movies back in 2005. Bashing something popular is quite effective, since it doesn't matter if people are cursing or blessing you, as long as they talk about you. It's true, he might actually hate SnK, but going out of his way to bash it makes me think that he really wants people to talk about him bashing it. I say that he went out of his way to bash it because he himself said that he does not like it, and doesn't want to talk about. If he really didn't want to talk about it, he wouldn't have. He would have just answered with "I don't like it. I think it's violent and grotesque. I don't want to talk about it." I could be wrong, of course, but it's what I believe.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:32 am Reply with quote
I thought it was funny, when he compared the Titan's manga artwork to pornography. When it comes down to artwork, it is the artist that matters, not the medium or the genre, that includes the adult side of things too.
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Animeking1108



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:34 am Reply with quote
Yeah, right. People are just butthurt because he doesn't conform to popular opinion.

I can see why he wouldn't like it. The characters are clichéd archetypes. It has every military movie cliché: the coward that sucks at fighting, the elitist bully, the bitchy female, the hardass drill sergeant, the guy who has a personal prejudice against the enemy for killing his loved ones, and the cold stoic girl.

I think another thing that killed it for me was that since people never shut up about it, they also tend to blurt out spoilers without warning. Thanks for ruining spoiler[Eren becoming a Titan] for me, fanbase.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:36 am Reply with quote
I agree wholeheartedly with his comments on Isayama's art. He's bad.

DmonHiro wrote:
Trying hard to stay relevant, eh, Tomino?


When you're the creator of one of Japan's most successful media franchises, you don't have to work to stay relevant.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:38 am Reply with quote
DmonHiro wrote:
Because usually, that IS the reason. People who have been out of the spotlight for a while will try different things to get back, and Tomino's last work (sort of) were the Z movies back in 2005. Bashing something popular is quite effective, since it doesn't matter if people are cursing or blessing you, as long as they talk about you. It's true, he might actually hate SnK, but going out of his way to bash it makes me think that he really wants people to talk about him bashing it.
I could be wrong, of course, but it's what I believe.


Wrong? Doesn't sound wrong to me.

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...revealed in his online magazine “Tomino Ryū no Tomino"...Tomino stated that he doesn't even want to talk about the series, let alone read it.


Though not doing the latter hasn't prevented from him from ...not? .. doing the former. Also:

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Even though he says that he's bad at drawing, he makes sure to work hard to draw the thing he hates the most, and still serializes the manga. This is because he is working first to become an author then a manga creator.


I'm pretty sure this is an insult. Tomino's other comments add this meaning to the end: "...if you want to call it a manga. I don't." Also, the passive-aggressive "I'm not saying he's bad at drawing, he is so it's ok" and "as an artist, he's a better writer and he's not even good at that" subtext is rather deafening to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:40 am Reply with quote
@Animeking1108

Criticizing the work because of the fanbase isn't fair, and knowing the spoiler you mentioned doesn't really mean you couldn't enjoy the series, it happens so early.
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Ulinox



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:42 am Reply with quote
Attack on Titan is horrible, this man is completely right!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:42 am Reply with quote
lol tomino, oh G-Reko when you gonna talk about that?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:46 am Reply with quote
Animegomaniac wrote:
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...revealed in his online magazine “Tomino Ryū no Tomino"...Tomino stated that he doesn't even want to talk about the series, let alone read it.


Though not doing the latter hasn't prevented from him from ...not? .. doing the former.


In the original Japanese text, the author said he didn't want to "evaluate" it. I'm guessing he got a lot of people saying HEY HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT AOT HEY U MUST LOVE IT HEY HEY HEY
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grooven



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:46 am Reply with quote
Wow, his comments are such a joke.
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cloud8100



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:47 am Reply with quote
Don't really agree with his view on AoT, but then perception of how people interpret things is completely different. I found AoT a lot easier to read than One Piece...
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Tomibiki



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:48 am Reply with quote
grooven wrote:
Wow, his comments are such a joke.


This thread is a joke. Tomino irrelevant? I'd argue if anyone's got the pull to criticize anything it's the guy who's actually done something on the scope of, I don't know, GUNDAM.

That being said, I dig AoT but I can see how sometimes the story can kinda get lost wallowing in its own filth, but that in itself is a theme. Personally the pacing feels a bit labored at times but it almost always has a brilliant payoff, almost.


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