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KabaKabaFruit
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:04 am
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1. It's great that Takeuchi is fine and well after that quake. People were worried when she didn't confirm her well being prior.
2. Those sketches are pretty...difficult to see. While it's great that Takeuchi is doing sketches of support, I hope those are just work-in-progress drawings and that she will provide a good finished product that everyone can see.
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Paploo
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:40 am
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They're photographs of pencil sketches, which is why they'd appear lighter than flatbed scans. Seeing this stuff on a sketchbook is more interesting though- it's a different view of an artist's style and skill, so it's something fun to see. I like the older Chibi Chibi picture, and the other ones are quite keen too- it's nice to get an idea of what a Takeuchi work in progress drawing looks like. Glad she used it as an opportunity to remind fans again about the crisis.
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Mune
Joined: 20 May 2004
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:24 am
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Well, her husband, Yoshihiro Togashi, already drew for quake victims and he didn't say anything had happened to her. So, I just guessed that she was fine.
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Dessa
Joined: 14 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:29 am
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mangamuscle wrote: | Forgive my french, but why the **** can't she do a proper drawing to encourage her people? |
You did catch the part where she has two children, right? IIRC, the kids are both under 10 years of age (I wanna say that the oldest should be 6 or 7 now?). Just because their family is "fine" doesn't mean that she has all of the time in the world. I think that people who are not the intended target should feel grateful that she posted the messages of hope that she took the time to make in a place where non-Japanese can access them.
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littlegreenwolf
Joined: 10 Aug 2002
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:56 pm
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mangamuscle wrote: | Forgive my french, but why the **** can't she do a proper drawing to encourage her people? |
Seeing as how rare new official Sailor Moon art is, I'm really happy with these sketches, and I prefer Takeuchi's line work to color work anyway. They look more better, and like she spent more time on them than some of the other doodles we've been getting from other artist anyway.
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TsukasaElkKite
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:25 pm
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I like these sketches a lot.
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mangamuscle
Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:34 pm
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Dessa wrote: | You did catch the part where she has two children, right? |
Excuses for a half-baked piece of work are excuses nonetheless (as in, if you are a profesional, people expect profesional work from you, specially if it is done with the idea of millions of people seeing it).
Quote: | I think that people who are not the intended target should feel grateful that she posted the messages of hope that she took the time to make in a place where non-Japanese can access them. |
How come? Even if she had not ANN would have posted about it so I see no reason to be thankful (as in, she did nothing special towards the non-intended audience).
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ConanSan
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:30 pm
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You know what, dood? Draw your own godamned sailor moon stuff and be happy at that.
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Bekha
Joined: 02 Apr 2011
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:59 pm
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mangamuscle wrote: |
Dessa wrote: | You did catch the part where she has two children, right? |
Excuses for a half-baked piece of work are excuses nonetheless (as in, if you are a profesional, people expect profesional work from you, specially if it is done with the idea of millions of people seeing it). |
What is your problem? Have you suffered any because of the catastrophe? Excuse MY French, but it doesn't matter what the **** she draws. It's the thought and effort she put into it that matters. Drawings aren't going to magically come off the paper and rebuild lives and houses. She feels just as bad as everyone else contributing what they can to those people in need. How about you draw something instead of dicking around on some anime forum, talking like you're some expert on professionalism. Yeah, show her how bad of a person she is for taking the time out of her life to sit down and pay tribute to people who are suffering.
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mangamuscle
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:14 pm
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Bekha wrote: | It's the thought and effort she put into it that matters. |
My point exactly, zero for effort.
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Quark
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:13 pm
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mangamuscle wrote: |
Bekha wrote: | It's the thought and effort she put into it that matters. |
My point exactly, zero for effort. |
Well, you're certainly putting in a good effort for raising awareness that some people can be uncharitable, ungrateful jerks. Good job!
Edit: Just so this isn't a completely negative post - I really like the sketch she did of Chibi Chibi. It'd be awesome if she was able to get around to finishing and colouring these sketches. But as they are, they're very cute.
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RoverTX
Joined: 17 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:56 pm
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mangamuscle wrote: | Forgive my french, but why the **** can't she do a proper drawing to encourage her people? |
[sarcasm]Well you better go tell every fine art Museum direct in the world that sketches aren't proper art, and all those Da Vinci sketches that sell for a shit load of money aren't proper drawings becuase they lack color, and while where at it why don't we color all old black and white movies I am sure that will go over well, since making them color will turn them into true art....... [/sarcasm]
On a happy note I had no idea that the creators of Yu Yu Hakusho and Sailor Moon married that has to be one of the most awesome things ever. I guess that make Yusuke, Tuxedo Mask, and Sailor Moon, Kayko?
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Altorrin
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:39 pm
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[sarcasm]Well you better go tell every fine art Museum direct in the world that sketches aren't proper art, and all those Da Vinci sketches that sell for a shit load of money aren't proper drawings becuase they lack color, and while where at it why don't we color all old black and white movies I am sure that will go over well, since making them color will turn them into true art....... [/sarcasm] |
1. Black and white =/= sketch. A fully shaded drawing with obvious effort and attention to detail put into it does not become a sketch, simply because it's in black and white. They're not saying the problem is that it's in black and white. The problem is that it lacks effort, that it is a sketch. Sketch - n. a simply or hastily executed drawing or painting, especially a preliminary one, giving the essential features without the details. It's not even shaded a little. It's just a sketch.
2. And, actually, they had and still do recolor black and white movies. It's a tedious process, but I do believe it goes over well.
3. Someone had complained about Tite Kubo not putting much effort into his contribution, while I thought it looked fine. Because he put effort. He at least scanned his picture, never mind the fact that he actually bothered coloring and inking it. He made an animation, for Pete's sake! He didn't just doodle in a sketchbook and take a picture with his digital camera of an obvious work-in-progress. I'm pretty disappointed in Ms. Takeuchi.
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Nayu
Joined: 23 Dec 2010
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:07 pm
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She hasn't drawn jack since 2006, anything from her is amazing at this point.
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RoverTX
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:14 pm
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Altorrin wrote: |
...giving the essential features without the details. It's not even shaded a little. It's just a sketch. |
Beautiful line work to me, with no shading, in itself is a very delicate and amazing skill to posses. Being able to portray a figure in a sketch with minimal lines, using only the lines and the power of suggestion can be immensely more interesting then an over shadowed and over detailed drawing. Just as any good writer knows its not only what you write but what you don't write, so should any good artist know that its not only what you draw but what you don't draw.
Altorrin wrote: | 2. And, actually, they had and still do recolor black and white movies. It's a tedious process, but I do believe it goes over well. |
Do you have any kind of idea what kind of outrage Ted Turners campaign to do just that caused? The way you have to capture things with color or with out color is so different because of the treatment of light in both cases.
Altorrin wrote: | 3. Someone had complained about Tite Kubo not putting much effort into his contribution, while I thought it looked fine. Because he put effort. He at least scanned his picture, never mind the fact that he actually bothered coloring and inking it. He made an animation, for Pete's sake! He didn't just doodle in a sketchbook and take a picture with his digital camera of an obvious work-in-progress. I'm pretty disappointed in Ms. Takeuchi. |
When people say its the thought that counts, they don't really mean the effort, they don't really mean the money, they don't' even really mean the time. They mean that what should really count is that the other person cares, and that you in return should not care about anything else but the fact that they thought of you or someone else.
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