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Which Summer 2024 Anime are Popular in the U.S. Compared to Japan?


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nobahn
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:42 am Reply with quote
Fascinating analysis.
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tintor2



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:19 am Reply with quote
I always saw Ninja Kamui as directly created to appeal to Westerns due to Adult Swim being part in charge. I also read that Goro Taniguchi adapted Planetes with a confusing idea as its content does not appeal to Easterns and instead Westerns. Planetes' author Makoto Yukimura happens to be the artist of Vinland Saga which mainly centers on Western settings and while I love it, I fear that Mappa will not touch it again considering it doesn't have the appeal to Japanese that Jujutsu has. I mean when Vinland season 2, there was no preview for a season 3 even though the third story arc was completed and Yukimura is still writing the climax of the manga.

On the other hand, when Jujutsu season 2 ended, Mappa announced they were still working on the Culling Games arc even though by then there was no ending announced as they were still in the middle of the Shibuya arc. Chainsaw Man also seems to have been abandoned by Mappa after only a cour as the movie trailer was months ago.

The one that surprised me that was popular in Japan was the second season of Darker than Black which was kinda divisive in Western territories for using a story like Leon: The Professional as its basis meaning the popular Hei turned into a wasted Jean Reno. Not even the Bones artists like Hei's redesign despite the director himself liking it.

By the way, was the Ace Attorney anime popular? I really wish they adapted the second trilogy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:27 am Reply with quote
Thank you for putting the data and analysis together!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:26 pm Reply with quote
Great article! I think Alya in some degree got a big boost in the US due to the bilingual nature of the concept, although the majority of US centered discussions were around the "sex appeal" more than any story elements, plot points or even character names. Lots of stocking and foot... appreciators. Gooning is universal, it seems.
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Mikan-box Glasses-kun



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:42 pm Reply with quote
Really interesting and fun analysis to read! Like, I knew Oshi no Ko was really popular in Japan but forgot just how much it is. Also surprised to hear Alya Sometimes Hides Her Feelings in Russian was the most popular in the US last season, especially in a season with MHA and stuff.

One minor technical quibble I have is just that the image quality on those graphs is so low I have trouble reading most of the titles (both on desktop and mobile), and some are entirely impossible to read.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:52 pm Reply with quote
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As discussed last season, Solo Leveling was part of an erroneous online narrative that the series was deeply unpopular in Japan due to its poor home video sales.

Can you tell me where I can find this discussion/article please?
Mikan-box Glasses-kun wrote:
One minor technical quibble I have is just that the image quality on those graphs is so low I have trouble reading most of the titles (both on desktop and mobile), and some are entirely impossible to read.

Here's a repost of the pic with most of the titles.

It's definitely more blurry in the article but opening the image in a separate tab (or hopefully looking at it in my post) makes it look a bit cleaner.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:08 pm Reply with quote
Chipp12 wrote:
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As discussed last season, Solo Leveling was part of an erroneous online narrative that the series was deeply unpopular in Japan due to its poor home video sales.

Can you tell me where I can find this discussion/article please?


Miles linked it earlier in the article, when he said "I previously shared a comparison between the two countries for the previous simulcast season.", but here you go.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:33 pm Reply with quote
Mikan-box Glasses-kun wrote:
One minor technical quibble I have is just that the image quality on those graphs is so low I have trouble reading most of the titles (both on desktop and mobile), and some are entirely impossible to read.

seconding this, even for the zoomed in version some things are hard to make out
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Oshi no Ko and Tower of God are the only major sequels released with built-in fanbases

I know everyone loves to hate it but is Fairy Tail 100YQ not also considered this? I imagine it has a much smaller audience than the original series for a list of reasons but Fairy Tail definitely still has a built in audience.
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The lack of experience with Japanese history makes it harder to sell to large U.S. audiences, as has been the case for many period pieces before it, no matter how excellent they are. See Golden Kamuy, The Heike Story, INU-OH, Shōwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjū, House of Five Leaves, and even Sengoku Basara for other examples of this, or if you're simply looking for some of the best anime released in the last 15 years.

I'll forever hate crunchyroll for not moving Sengoku Basara over from Funimation (the original SB, End of Judgement is a depressing huge downgrade in all ways) but I think its worth mentioning the ever controversial outlier Rurouni Kenshin whose plot is fairly dependent on the politics of the time period it's set in so I wonder why (before the Watsuki arrest) it was able to be as popular as it was in the west where others like it have not.

When it comes to WSJ or really broadly shonen manga getting anime adaptations, I've noticed a trend over the past decade in a lot of these new anime adaptations having large coalitions of English speaking manga fans who basically act as unpaid promoters once their favorite series gets an anime announced or even long before that, Jujutsu Kaisen, Chainsaw Man and Blue Lock being a few that come to mind (with the latter being the most annoying case I've ever seen). I had never even seen mention of ES before its anime and was surprised it wasn't talked about as much despite being a successful WSJ manga when I much later found out it was so I imagine that has to also be a factor in its lack of initial popularity for western fans albeit probably also linked to the general disconnect mentioned relating to jp historical stories as well.

Since Rick & Morty was included I would be curious to see where Suicide Squad Isekai ended up. I imagine still skewing strongly american but DC Comics IP I would assume is more popular than R&M in japan (or maybe I'm wrong).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:41 pm Reply with quote
I'm not sure the Rick & Morty anime was even officially released in Japan.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 2:01 pm Reply with quote
This was really fun to look at. Personally my top-3 for the summer (Mayonaka Punch, Oshi no Ko, Dungeon People) were all more popular in Japan, while none of the most popular titles in the US really appealed to my tastes. I think that's mostly just to do with the "Japan likes characters; US likes plots" trend the article mentioned, which has been a very deep-rooted issue for at least as long as I've been old enough to understand the business end of manga/anime (mid-2000s). I've been around long enough to where it's funny to me how, for as much as the anime industry in the US has evolved over the past 20 years, there are certain things that haven't really changed at all -- and probably never will.
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TheSeventhSense



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 2:13 pm Reply with quote
"All publicity is good publicity." - Jason DeMarco reading about R&M: The Anime's 'popularity', probably
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:05 pm Reply with quote
Considering that it was so unpopular with ANN readers that it didn't even make the summer ranking lists (likely due to a first episode that was admittedly off-putting if you're unfamiliar with the manga), I was surprised not to see My Wife Has No Emotion in the bottom quartile unless it was just so unpopular that getting accurate viewer data was impossible.

I know I'm in the small minority here who watched the whole series but I was already a big fan of the manga, which I find both charming as a comfy slice-of-life manga and thought-provoking as a near-future sci-fi title about emerging sentience in artificial intelligence. Maybe it's a manga that just resonates more with older readers like myself due to the main human character being a salaryman instead of a high school student.

KrisPNatz wrote:
Mikan-box Glasses-kun wrote:
One minor technical quibble I have is just that the image quality on those graphs is so low I have trouble reading most of the titles (both on desktop and mobile), and some are entirely impossible to read.

seconding this, even for the zoomed in version some things are hard to make out


Personally, I had to open the image in a separate tag and then zoom in with Chrome's zoom function a few times to be able to almost read a couple of those titles.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:06 pm Reply with quote
Tenchi wrote:
Maybe it's a manga that just resonates more with older readers like myself due to the main human character being a salaryman instead of a high school student.

Same here. I'm in my late 40s and enjoy the manga a lot. It's one of the more interesting current seinen SoL/romance manga with a charming dynamic between the main couple. Too bad the anime probably won't get a second season (I hope I'm wrong).
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Tenchi



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:22 pm Reply with quote
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Too bad the anime probably won't get a second season (I hope I'm wrong).


I know what you mean, the anime adaptation of My Wife Has No Emotion ended just short of introducing the character who I think is the most interesting in the series, spoiler[Erisu Isami. The especially frustrating part is that you actually see Erisu's house in the final episode right next to Takuma's new home but we'll never see Erisu animated unless I'm wrong about the unlikelihood of it getting a second season, which is a travesty.]


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:59 pm Reply with quote
Rick and Morty The Anime, it´s ok but offers little to fans of the cartoon, nose dove off a cliff almost immediately. It got dubbed into multiple languages due to the proliferation of the IP and even Adult Swim´s block having European exports, but if you filter 9 out of 10 people way waaaay before the mini-series reached even the halfway point, what is left? I would love to know if the Japanese mini-fanbase also went through the same mass exodus with the spin-off, just at a scale of 1/50. The experiment made Suicide Squad Isekai seem reasonable.

My Wife Has No Emotion ending right before the manga starts getting to its point is the definition of a Catch-22. It having coherent visuals and direction must be due to TMS producing it.
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