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SP654
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Dang it I thought the second half of 2nd season was gonna Air in January 2024 but Instead of waiting 3 months After the first half, they’re Making us wait 6
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Angel M Cazares
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More split cour series are starting to have a six months break in between instead of the typical 3. I would like for all my favorite anime shows to air/stream as quick as possible, but I am willing to wait for the benefit of the animators and staff.
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Minos_Kurumada
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I don't care about this series, but, the splitting thingy is getting on my nerves.
Just call them season 2 and 3, I don't get what's the fear on doing so. |
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Uokel
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because it's not a another season. It's as simple as that. |
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Pandsu
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How is it not though? What's the difference when each cour has the length of a full season and has a gap of full, literal seasons between them? What makes something like that a part of a single season instead of just another one entirely? It'd be one thing if there was a gap of maybe a couple of weeks and besides that it's one continuous thing. Or if something is planned, and announced, as one continuous airing and then had to be split for unforeseen reasons. But at this point, this just feels arbitrary and pointless. |
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Yttrbio
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There's an argument that it's all one production with continuity on the creation end, but that's all inside baseball that no viewer should have to give a crap about. Around "Attack on Titan Final Season Part 3 Second Half" my tolerance for that point of view basically ended.
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MFrontier
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So basically split like the first season was.
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09jcg
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That said, MT *is* a series where it can make some sort of sense, since volumes 1 through 6 sort of start and end one chapter of the story (season 1) and volumes 7 through 12 start and bookend another phase of the story (season2) I still think it's dumb, but it does make more sense with MT than with most series. |
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BalmungHHQ
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If a show is a single production that had to be split into airing in different seasons, they absolutely should NOT go around pretending the second half is some kind of new season without good reason. That kind of thing has the potential to be really dishonest. There actually are a few shows that do this, splitting itself up while pretending its second half is "another season", and all that usually does is create misunderstandings among fans.
You all can be "annoyed" by the increased use of this practice as much as you want, but the truth is that it's an important distinction to make, and just because there are a few extreme examples of it (like Attack on Titan) doesn't mean we should be pushing for the industry to be even more dishonest with the fans... That said, every show is different and there are cases where maybe it'd be fitting to classify two halves of a production as different seasons, but Mushoku Tensei at least is not one of them, as already explained. If the industry were healthier, most of these productions would just air straight through, but two-cour shows are getting increasingly harder to pull off these days without a break, due to the committees wanting to get these things on-air asap. Now, if I could take a moment to share a small complaint of my own... What really bugs me is when sites like AnimeNewsNetwork and MyAnimeList arbitrarily create a whole new page for a split-cour show's second half instead of just continuing the first half's page... It's so needlessly disorganized. ANN editors should go look at Girls Bravo's page. That is how the ANN encyclopedia should handle these things, lol. GB was one of the oldest split-cour shows, and because it was kind of unprecedented at the time, it pretended the second half was a new "season", but everyone knew better, and the ANN page reflects that. If only the current encyclopedia team could've kept that up, since most split-cour shows these days are kind enough to make it so abundantly clear... |
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AQuin1904
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What actual problems and misunderstandings would this create? All I've ever seen is people confused because we have one term that means an arbitrary unit of production and one term that means a quarter of a year (you know, like an actual season is in a good chunk of the world) and other people acting snooty whenever someone says the wrong one. |
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Pandsu
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That's what I'm wondering.
People keep insisting that there's an important difference but I haven't seen anyone explain what that difference is or why it's important, especially to the end consumer, to make that distinction. I just don't understand how calling them different seasons is any more confusing or any less useful to the consumer than calling them "season x part 2" or "season x second half". Especially when that part has the length of a full season, there are full real-life seasons between each part and even more especially when it's based on a source material that had an ongoing run without a kind of grouping like that (besides book volumes I guess but those are often secondary and after-the-fact anyway and based more on number of chapters rather than a naturally occurring end to a story arc or something). |
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Juno016
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From my understanding, they greenlight the whole thing at once, put it under one team, plan it all at once, and when it releases on disc in Japan, it's usually sold as a single series of units. The animation and editing is the only thing done as it goes, and the split cour exists to give animators and staff time between each season to focus production on the second half. What makes something a season is then focused on the production and marketing side, not the consumer side. Remember, split cours only happened as a reaction to poor quality and other issues within series with more than one cour, so all other aspects of prodiction are the same.
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Sariachan
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I so much agree. |
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Nachtwandler
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The difference is simple. It means the show was initially paid for more than one cour, not that the first one was so successful that they immediatelly requested another one. It also affects the production cycle, as the studio still has to do both parts in parallel, just has more time than with a solid multi-cour series for it. Also, in case of actual multiple seasons you can be sure that the next season won't be affected by the previous one flopping (they just won't announce more). While in case of split-cour bad performance of the first cour may result in budget cuts or even episode cuts for the second one. Remember Hitsugi no Chaika, for example, where they clearly cut a couple of episodes from second cour and had to cram more material in it less time. Or a bunch of actual 2-cour (not split) shows which suffered due to budget cuts in the second half (Samurai Flamenco being the most infamous one). |
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Villain-chan
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I do have to wonder if this trend will continue though? Theres a lot of fans like myself who simply REFUSE to start watching the 1st part of the split cour until the rest of the parts are out. Which for me really sucks becus then am stuck waiting anywhere between 6-12 months for the 2nd part of Season whatever to air and finish airing. This HAS to affect viewership esp if as time goes on mroe and more get tired of waiting and just go the route that i have, wait for it to all air... U could make an argument that I could watch soon as part 2 airs but, to that i say, I rather not risk a delay, esp when there's been a bunch of those already... plus its easy to forget thigns that happened esp over such a long stretch of time, just another reason I wait.
Ya'll can say whats the difference between a new season and a part x of x of the same season but most anime's S1 and S2 (and future seasons too) have a start and end between the two. Sure, the story continues into the next season but theres usually some ending the last season gets, be it the final to a romance anime, be it the conclusion to that adventure anime's current arc, usually there is some conclusion, mean while from the few (and I emphasize that there) same season split into 2 parts anime I have seen there is usually no conclusion, maybe a cliffhanger (Such as in the case of this anime we're currently talking about) but thats not the same thing as an end to the prev season which imo is proof enough its the same season just split into 2 parts as this anime was. This along with some that others have said regarding production, staff and time and green lighting and such is another reason for the distinction. Either way, I hope this splitting a season into multiple parts trend dies and sooner than later, I do not like it and now i gotta wait a year practically for this S2's part 2 to air and finish airing... personally speaking, I would much rather they not announce they green lit the next season and silently work on it and THEN only when they finish all aprts of that season, start releasing it. Thats how it should be... the q I wonder is, why isn't it this way? And am sure money is the reason why... |
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