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Ryuji-Dono
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 Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:22 am
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Is this popular enough to get snatched by Disney?
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L'Imperatore
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:22 am
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The synopsis has sooo little to do with the title? 
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smurky turkey
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:27 am
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Gotta fix all of those bugs, maybe when he is done he can get to work in the gaming industry.
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Kiwi93
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:42 am
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| Ryuji-Dono wrote: | | Is this popular enough to get snatched by Disney? |
As far as I can tell not really this looks like something CR would pick up. Honestly though considering that Disney+ is supposedly going to start focusing less on “General entertainment” and cutting back on international shows I’m really curious if by 2024 they will even keep licensing anime especially if it hasn’t been profitable for them globally.
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L'Imperatore
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:36 am
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^^^
Licensing anime is relatively cheap compared to commisioning live-action shows.
Dunno how much they spent to get Bleach, but come on, it's peanut compared to.. say, funding Andor. 
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Kiwi93
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:45 am
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| L'Imperatore wrote: | ^^^
Licensing anime is relatively cheap compared to commisioning live-action shows.
Dunno how much they spent to get Bleach, but come on, it's peanut compared to.. say, funding Andor. |
Oh yea not disagreeing with you or anything and I know it’s cheaper than the Star Wars or marvel live action shows they like to produce I was just saying that given the C.E.Os statement on wanting to focus more on their own brands and less general entertainment/international stuff I just wonder how this could affect their anime endeavors in the long run.
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DRosencraft
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:50 am
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| L'Imperatore wrote: | ^^^
Licensing anime is relatively cheap compared to commisioning live-action shows.
Dunno how much they spent to get Bleach, but come on, it's peanut compared to.. say, funding Andor. |
But, as the exclusive rights holder to Star Wars, and thereby also the destination of any residuals that come from it, as well as Star Wars being in all likelihood several times larger a revenue stream than any anime streaming deal, the money spent to commission a Star Wars property is going to reap much bigger dividends, especially if it's a quality offering, than, at this point, trying to guess the next mega hit out of Japan.
If you're trying to constrain budget (as they have seemed to want to do of late) and pick and choose how and where to spend money, this is really the no-brainer option for them. The statement gives them enough wiggle room they can always ramp back up anime licensing if they want, but it makes business sense why they'd be pulling back from that and staying out of a bidding war with HiDive and Crunchyroll, not to mention any insider information they might have on any other competition soon to join in any one of their business areas. For a company like Disney, this is a logical decision to make.
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MFrontier
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:26 pm
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Not sure what feel I'm getting from this show.
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Ryuji-Dono
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:19 pm
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| DRosencraft wrote: |
| L'Imperatore wrote: | ^^^
Licensing anime is relatively cheap compared to commisioning live-action shows.
Dunno how much they spent to get Bleach, but come on, it's peanut compared to.. say, funding Andor. |
But, as the exclusive rights holder to Star Wars, and thereby also the destination of any residuals that come from it, as well as Star Wars being in all likelihood several times larger a revenue stream than any anime streaming deal, the money spent to commission a Star Wars property is going to reap much bigger dividends, especially if it's a quality offering, than, at this point, trying to guess the next mega hit out of Japan.
If you're trying to constrain budget (as they have seemed to want to do of late) and pick and choose how and where to spend money, this is really the no-brainer option for them. The statement gives them enough wiggle room they can always ramp back up anime licensing if they want, but it makes business sense why they'd be pulling back from that and staying out of a bidding war with HiDive and Crunchyroll, not to mention any insider information they might have on any other competition soon to join in any one of their business areas. For a company like Disney, this is a logical decision to make. |
The problem is like assuming that it's going to be permament, especially since we don't know if CR is going to remain for long anyway.
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Kiwi93
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:27 pm
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| Ryuji-Dono wrote: |
| DRosencraft wrote: |
| L'Imperatore wrote: | ^^^
Licensing anime is relatively cheap compared to commisioning live-action shows.
Dunno how much they spent to get Bleach, but come on, it's peanut compared to.. say, funding Andor. |
But, as the exclusive rights holder to Star Wars, and thereby also the destination of any residuals that come from it, as well as Star Wars being in all likelihood several times larger a revenue stream than any anime streaming deal, the money spent to commission a Star Wars property is going to reap much bigger dividends, especially if it's a quality offering, than, at this point, trying to guess the next mega hit out of Japan.
If you're trying to constrain budget (as they have seemed to want to do of late) and pick and choose how and where to spend money, this is really the no-brainer option for them. The statement gives them enough wiggle room they can always ramp back up anime licensing if they want, but it makes business sense why they'd be pulling back from that and staying out of a bidding war with HiDive and Crunchyroll, not to mention any insider information they might have on any other competition soon to join in any one of their business areas. For a company like Disney, this is a logical decision to make. |
The problem is like assuming that it's going to be permament, especially since we don't know if CR is going to remain for long anyway. |
CR isn’t going anywhere anytime soon they’ve built up to much brand recognition over the last couple of years, for better or worse they’re pretty much the face of anime in the western markets.
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Ryuji-Dono
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:54 pm
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| Kiwi93 wrote: |
| Ryuji-Dono wrote: |
| DRosencraft wrote: |
| L'Imperatore wrote: | ^^^
Licensing anime is relatively cheap compared to commisioning live-action shows.
Dunno how much they spent to get Bleach, but come on, it's peanut compared to.. say, funding Andor. |
But, as the exclusive rights holder to Star Wars, and thereby also the destination of any residuals that come from it, as well as Star Wars being in all likelihood several times larger a revenue stream than any anime streaming deal, the money spent to commission a Star Wars property is going to reap much bigger dividends, especially if it's a quality offering, than, at this point, trying to guess the next mega hit out of Japan.
If you're trying to constrain budget (as they have seemed to want to do of late) and pick and choose how and where to spend money, this is really the no-brainer option for them. The statement gives them enough wiggle room they can always ramp back up anime licensing if they want, but it makes business sense why they'd be pulling back from that and staying out of a bidding war with HiDive and Crunchyroll, not to mention any insider information they might have on any other competition soon to join in any one of their business areas. For a company like Disney, this is a logical decision to make. |
The problem is like assuming that it's going to be permament, especially since we don't know if CR is going to remain for long anyway. |
CR isn’t going anywhere anytime soon they’ve built up to much brand recognition over the last couple of years, for better or worse they’re pretty much the face of anime in the western markets. |
You should know I never said "soon".
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Kiwi93
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:07 pm
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| Ryuji-Dono wrote: |
| Kiwi93 wrote: |
| Ryuji-Dono wrote: |
| DRosencraft wrote: |
| L'Imperatore wrote: | ^^^
Licensing anime is relatively cheap compared to commisioning live-action shows.
Dunno how much they spent to get Bleach, but come on, it's peanut compared to.. say, funding Andor. |
But, as the exclusive rights holder to Star Wars, and thereby also the destination of any residuals that come from it, as well as Star Wars being in all likelihood several times larger a revenue stream than any anime streaming deal, the money spent to commission a Star Wars property is going to reap much bigger dividends, especially if it's a quality offering, than, at this point, trying to guess the next mega hit out of Japan.
If you're trying to constrain budget (as they have seemed to want to do of late) and pick and choose how and where to spend money, this is really the no-brainer option for them. The statement gives them enough wiggle room they can always ramp back up anime licensing if they want, but it makes business sense why they'd be pulling back from that and staying out of a bidding war with HiDive and Crunchyroll, not to mention any insider information they might have on any other competition soon to join in any one of their business areas. For a company like Disney, this is a logical decision to make. |
The problem is like assuming that it's going to be permament, especially since we don't know if CR is going to remain for long anyway. |
CR isn’t going anywhere anytime soon they’ve built up to much brand recognition over the last couple of years, for better or worse they’re pretty much the face of anime in the western markets. |
You should know I never said "soon". |
Yea I know you don’t meant “soon” like in the next few years I could have worded that a bit better apologies if I offended you in some way was just trying to state that CR has too much brand power to realistically get dethroned for now (I personally know a couple of people who only watch anime legally on CR and pirate anime’s that don’t come to the platform because they feel it’s a waste to pay for more than 1 service to watch anime).
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DRosencraft
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:56 pm
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CR, with the backing of Sony, has virtually no competition. It would take at minimum a decade for someone to come along and tear down CR at this point, and that's assuming they can overcome the same financial wall we're talking about here getting in Disney's way. Amazon tried and receded from the anime streaming competition, and they're currently more on the Disney route than anything. Netflix has continued to do its thing, but it's any wonder if their back and forth statements about pulling back on spending and not pulling back on spending, in addition to the other elements of their western anime consumption model.
NBCUniversal as an international corporation funds projects, but not a lot, and their western arm hasn't seemed to do much in terms of streaming. They have the potential to fill a void on Hulu if Disney steps back as much as suggested, but are they even interested? And even if they were, they're in a not much different boat than Disney in terms of divergent attentions. Fox Corp has no anime exposure I'm aware of, so they could make the push. But like a broken record, that would put them in the same tier as Disney - a big company with a lot of different revenue project streams that will be fighting for the dollars the corp already has allocated or wants to allocate elsewhere.
All of which is to say, CR is in a very comfortable spot right now. Even on the anime retail scene their acquisition of Right Stuf makes it very hard for US audiences at the minimum to avoid CR. From a business standpoint, unless some other major corp takes a decisive shift and is willing to eat a lot of financial losses up front, HiDive gets some really heady funding and support, or Cr under Sony's guidance makes a cataclysmic blunder (I mean Sony itself on fire level disaster), there's no CR alternative on the horizon for the foreseeable future. The streaming market isn't what it was like when Crunchy first came along. The market has matured, solidified. Some new startup isn't going to have a very easy time earning the dollars necessary to compete for quite a while, so you're definitely looking at 10 years of CR dominance at least.
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