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Xxipodipodxx
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i heard tha in America they are making a American form of Death Note do u like te idea of it?
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EricDent
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Yes the people who re-did The Grudge, The Ring, and a couple of others are doing it. It really depends on what they do with it.
Basically I think that they will do a re-make of the Live Action movies. The only problems I see, is that no matter who they cast, people are going to complain that "so & so" is not good for the part. There have been a couple of rumors floating around (on other message boards) that Zac Effron would be Light, but hopefully it is not true. |
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Lunarose
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If they are making some kind of adaption, that would be... quite epic, really. No matter what, I swear I'll be unhappy with any guy they choose to play as L. But I can imagine it as an interesting sell as a PG-13 or a rated R movie. You'd get to see the commercial go like this: Imagine if you had a notebook that had the life of a person in the balance. Would you use it for evil... or justice? It really is interesting for a movie concept. As long as the smart tactics don't get too confusing (Light: If I cough, that will prove to him I am Kira! But if I don't cough, then it would signal me as Kira anyways since the actual Kira would go out of his way not to cough. So if I did cough, then of course I wouldn't be Kira. But maybe he would assume that Kira had already assumed that coughing would be the best way out of it, so naturally, I should NOT cough, etc. etc. etc.) then I'm betting that it would actually be a pretty good hit. Though again, if they bring in a suck-ish actor for L, he won't be written off as a hot anime bishounen of many of today's Yaoi Doujinshi from out perspective, but instead some creepy dectective freak who has a crazy metabolism for a person who sits around computers 24 hours a day. That would be bad.
Crap, I've heard that rumor before. And now I'm scared. I don't care if the actor for Edward Cullen plays L, I'd go mad if Zac Effron played as Light. That's... that's too scary to contemplate. *Sarcasm* And I suppose Miley Cyrus will be doing Misa too... but if for some reason she is, I'd rather have Ashley Tisdale do Misa. *Nods* That works out better. It'd be just dandy if Zac does Matsuda. Actually, that would make my day. I'll keep my fingers crossed now. 
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Bluebeard
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Initial reaction: I don't like it. But that's basically my reacton to any remake. In actuality remakes will have about a 50/50 success rate. The two movies the previous poster listed for example are a good example. While I enjoyed The Ring remake, I didn't care for The Grudge much. Casting is going to be the make or break issue when it comes down to it. I think the movie will fail if they go the marquee route and center the movie around Will Smith, Nicholas Cage, and Angelina Jolie. A movie like this isn't going to appeal to the fanbase of people who will see any crappy movie just because their favorite celeberety is in it. If it can avoid that temptation and cast real character actors, the kind of people who you can blend into the movie and be seen solely as the character they're playing (J.K. Simmons is a good example) then it should have a better chance of not embarassing itself. Then they can use that Will Smith money they save to instead focus on animating Ryuk as a realistic part of the movie and avoid making him look cartoonish and out of place.
I wonder if they'd have to replace the FBI agents with another foreign agency since it would be taking place in the US. I'd totally see this movie if it had KGB agents investigating Kira in the US. They'd also likely Americanize the "Kira" tag and for some reason I can't see them using "Killer" instead. Hopefully they'll choose something appropriate. Regarding the Zac Effron rumor, I'm torn on it. I mean, he definitely would have the look at the very least. But them again I don't know if he has ever done any serious roles. High School Musical is a joke of production aimed at children, so I can't count that as something to judge his acting by. I'd be willing to give him a chance though. Just a few thoughts on it. We'll see what happens as more info becomes available. |
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abynormal
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I can't help but notice everyone's forgotten that Effron was also in Hairspray, which is leagues better than any of the HSM movies. It's still a lighthearted, slightly silly musical, but it's a good lighthearted, slightly silly musical.
A quick check at IMDB shows that Efron has some dramatic experience on the likes of Summerland and NCIS. It's not much, but what can you expect out of a young teen heartthrob actor? I think Death Note really should be adapted. I think it's a very good story everyone should experience, and there are too many people who instantly write off foreign media of any sort for no other reason than they don't like reading subtitles. Casting Light and L is going to be a pain, though. Hint to the producers: don't hire Keanu Reeves for L. I've seen people complain that Light should be played by an Asian actor because Light "looks Asian in the manga." I wonder how they'll alter Ryukk, if at all? I get the feeling they'll opt for a human actor in an elaborate costume with CGI makeup to complete the effect. |
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JacobC
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I love Hollywood and the idea of adapting beloved anime titles to the big screen, but I'm actually not real crazy about Death Note for several reasons.
1. It's clear in this case that they're just capitalizing on Japanese horror again. If the creators are thinking with their pocketbooks, this movie will blow...chunks. 2. I'm of the opinion that a movie should only be made from an anime or any other source for that matter if it can do something with the material that really improves it somehow, or does the story in a way that's never been done before. Death Note worked really well as an anime. It didn't suffer from poor animation, pacing, or any lack of style and definition. Heck, if I could hand Death Note props for one thing (besides the dub, oh the dub is good for that show with SO much talking in it) it would be tone. The anime creators got the tone just perfect for that show in order to make it work and not be offensive, self-deprecating, or REALLY boring and talky. Just the right mix. But that same mix won't work in live-action, and what is there to improve upon anyway? The anime is near perfect, just watch it and don't pain yourself by trying to translate such a stylistic wonderland of dark eerieness to real life. In fact, I don't think a live-action version can do anything but worsen Death Note, because: 3. This story is incredulous. It works as an anime, amazingly enough, because of the tone they took. The creators (very wisely) approached the story stylistically and melodramatically, like a great big hokey thriller, "The murderer is...you!" It was almost as if by overdramatizing the show, they were understating it more, saying "This is all pretty over-the-top, so just have fun with it." I think Death Note was made to get your blood boiling, but begged you to turn your brain off, as the character's captivating monologues about their deductions made any use of it unnecessary anyway. Meant to excite, but not be taken seriously. If the movie adaptation does not take this into account, they're screwed. The portrayal of the ICPO and the L-Light-Misa relationship along with Mello's control of the mafia, etc, etc, is TOO silly, and it will only be emphasized more in non-animated form. 4. This is all way too obvious in the characterization of L himself. L works fantastically as an animated character. Animation does for L's character what live action could never do. Watch the Japanese movie. The actor playing L does a near-perfect job, but he still is nowhere near as good as the animated L, who could literally just arch an eyebrow and send shivers down your spine at the rich eerieness of his character and how masterful he seemed, while still looking like a strangely attractive gremlin. If that's EVER going to work in live-action, it can't be as literal as it was in the Japanese film. They're going to have to get creative to issue that same sort of shivery command from such a babyish character. Actually, although I can't say this of nearly any VAs, I think Alessandro Juliani could actually play his own character in live-action. His voice was perfect already, and if you've seen Battlestar Galactica, you know he's comfortable onscreen as well. He has the long face and the eyes, and the hair might not even matter. I think it'd be a scream if he actually PLAYED L in the movie, who is supposed to be in his late twenties anyway, although the anime shields that pretty well by making him such a bishounen. As for casting, I don't like that Zac Efron's so crazy popular with the tweens, but if he was great in an audition for Light, then heck yes, he should get the part. I don't know if he could act the part or not, but he DOES have the look down, he has the star power to attract people to see the movie, and it's certainly possible he could play Light, as his capacity for breadth hasn't been displayed yet. (Tobey Maguire displayed amazing breadth after breaking in through kids' movies, Orlando Bloom flushed his own career down the toilet when we found out Legolas was all he was really good at.) At least he'd have to be better than the poor choice for the Japanese live-action. He was about as evil and deceptive-looking as an insane...teddy bear. Either way, I think this movie will be incredibly cheap, and it is unfortunately following the "Da Vinci Code," "Eragon," and "Twilight" trend of capitalizing on a property for fans without writing a good standalone script first, resulting in a crappy movie that makes a lot of money but disgraces its original material, no matter how "faithful" it is, which is no measure of a good movie. But Hollywood does love the franchises, don't it...  If the script is good, this movie could be fine, but if it isn't, it will only prove more to executives that anime is just a wasteland for good movies, which isn't true.
The story for Death Note is a real gripper, yes, but the progression thereof and the visual stylings needed to pull it off only work in animation. I think people will be intrigued by the trailer, go to see the movie, and unless there's a miracle worker at the grubby studio that foolishly snatched up this property, will find it too bizarre and throw their suspension of disbelief out the window. |
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sailorspazz
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Come on, the thing about Zac Efron isn't a "rumor", it's baseless, wild fangirl speculation that stems from the fact that fans noticed that he looks similar to Light. Sorry, I've never heard of a movie being cast based on who most looks like the fictional character they're portraying. Anyone can be made to look differently with hairdye and makeup, so why would that even be a factor in the casting decision?
Until we see further details about this movie, I'm still thinking that it's not really going to be based exactly on the story and use all the same characters, but rather be a loose adaptation that uses the concept of the Death Note and creates its own characters. But we'll see what happens. I'll definitely watch it whether it sticks close to the original story, or creates an entirely new version. |
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abynormal
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I agree with pretty much everything you say Jesus Otaku. You can cast good actors for Light and L, but it will take one hell of a good director and production team to pull off the over-the-top, melodramatic thriller / horror story that is Death Note. It will never be as great as the manga or anime, so the best we can do is hope they make it a good film on its own right.
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Xxipodipodxx
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i think that if zac erfon plays as Light andthat disney people play as the cast! THEN I WILL GET REALLY REALLY MAD! But i have seen it in action live and it is really really good!(japaness verison) and when they mean it more intension THEY REALLY MEAN IT! AND IT REALLY REALLY SHOCKING!!!!AND WHEN THEY SAY KEN'ICHI MATSUYAMA IS HOT THEY REALLY REALLY MEAN IT!( lol that was sort of out of topic)
BUT WOULD REALLLLLLLLY HATE IT IF THEY GOT THE DISNEY people TO DO!! I MEAN REEAAALLLY MADD  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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fighterholic
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I think it would be interesting to see an American remake, maybe it would be fun to see how they work the part of spoiler[how Light had to deal with the President of the United States.] Anyways, if Zac Effron were to be cast, then we would be having problems then, and I probably wouldn't go see it if that were such the case.
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JacobC
ANN Past Staff
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I'm actually intrigued by the thought of changes they'd have to make to the plot in order to fit Death Note into two hours... (a LOT!)
Probable changes: 1. Near and Mello? What Near and Mello? (L: "The silliness of our story has just gone down by roughly 40%.") Either spoiler[appoint the role of exposing Light to Aizawa soonafter L's death, or just have L solve the case...at a cost to himself, of course, since he and Light are so reflective of one another.] 2. The approach to how the ICPO goes about recruiting L and what role he plays. Perhaps having the police pull out very early on due to an important murder and L, having such personal ties to the case, stays with it along with some members of the police force? 3. Ryuk's appearance. Hear me out. The face stays, and the garish appearance, but he could be made a bit more spectre-like, kept in shadow more to make him fearsome at the same time as he's goofy, which his facial expression will certainly take care of. Having this big solid shinigami galloping around munching apples isn't...really...limited movement is going to be key. 4. Misa specifically may not be necessary, but someone that plays a role like hers would be, absolutely a woman. Someone to provide Light with "the eyes" and an accomplice to layer the story, while also showing how Light is such a judgmental and wicked chauvinist in how he abuses the woman's devotion. But the whole second Kira thing and the specifics of who Misa is may not be necessary. 5. Hate to burst the collective fan bubble, but I'm pretty sure this will take place in America and everyone who isn't named "Light, "L," and maaaybe "Ryuk," (if he's even in this) will have their name changed to an American one. Them's the breaks. Big deal. |
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bllanosr
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I agree with everything you said 100%. Yes, Efron is known for his musical movies but he does have the look down. If he can do the part justice I have no problem with him as the lead despite his tweeny fanbase. Besides, there are worse possible candidates that look like Light. Chace Crawford would definately be a disaster cause he definitely can't act. Knowing Hollywood, it's all about who is the current "it" boy or girl. On a side note, I was really disappointed when they casted Halle Berry for the role of Storm in X-men when the best person for the role in my opinion would have been Iman. She looks and talks like Storm. Berry probably got the job cause she was one of the "it" girls at that time. Also as for the the Japanese actor who played Light, yes he was a bad choice, but they casted him because he was the current "it" boy in Japan. I thought he did good job in Battle Royale. Speaking of Battle Royale, that's a movie that should be remade in the US. I don't know they can possibly mess that one up. Also if they cast people like Zac or the current "it" boys and girls, I wouldn't mind seeing how each and everyone gets killed off. |
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AndrewIsAzn
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This sounds like it could be really, really bad....
If they make this American Deathnote movie I can't forsee it being very good at all. Maybe I'm just being negative, but I think the anime, manga, and live-action Japanese movies are enough |
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Zalis116
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retty
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I usually hate the idea of American remakes of foreign films, but that's usually because they're already perfectly good. However, the Death Note movies were just terrible, it was like watching a Japanese tv drama, so really, even if an American version sucks, I don't think it could possibly be as bad as the Japanese version. It could even be enjoyable.
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