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frostedsaiyan
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:17 pm
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I've noticed that more and more complete collection dvds have been being released. I just wanted to know if all 26 episodes are on 1 disc? It just seems that way from the cover but its highly unlikely. Heres an example...
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CrackaJax
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:25 pm
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It's probably 5 DVDs inside 1 case.
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Goshin
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:28 pm
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Episodes are generally spread over 2-6 DVD's, maybe even more. That solely depends on the company. In the case of Soul Hunter, I believe it's 6.
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frostedsaiyan
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:09 pm
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Yes, I bought all 6 dvd's yesterday. I was thinking it could be a fold out case that has all 6 dvd's in it but they just sell it cheaper.
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space clam
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:08 pm
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Just so you know, I don't think you CAN fit >10 episodes on one DVD. A DVD holds 4.7 GB of information. That's usually about 2 hours of MPEG2 compression. If you have double-layer write capability, I suppose you could theoretically fit 4 hours on one disc (a 26 episode anime series is 650 minutes long [assuming 25 min per episode], just shy of 11 hours; therefore, you couldn't fit a whole series using standard compression.)
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CrackaJax
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:34 pm
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No, now DVD's can hold about 8 GB. They won't release them to the public for a while, but the new generations of DVDs can hold 8 GB worth, more or less.
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ParaParaJMo
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:46 pm
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My HK Gundam and Z Gundam DVDs actually hold 10 episodes per disc almost. But averagley HK DVDs can hold 9. They are the 8GB ones. I heard of ones with 14GB before with some X-Box games.
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CrackaJax
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:48 pm
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That's because the console systems use different colored light, so the data can be more compressed.
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cookie
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:50 pm
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space clam wrote: | Just so you know, I don't think you CAN fit >10 episodes on one DVD. A DVD holds 4.7 GB of information. |
You can fit 13; the original Fox Kids release of the first half of Season 1 of Digimon is 13 episodes on 1 DVD.
IANADVDS (I am not a DVD specialist), but IIRC, DVD specs require MPEG2 video to range from ~1.5mbit/s to 10mbit/s.. or about 11mb to 75mb of data per minute.
A 4.7gb disc (DVD-5) could hold about 425 minutes of the lowest-quality video (15-17 episodes). The same disc could only hold 60 minutes of the highest-quality video.
DVD-9 is dual-layer, which can store about 8.5gb of data. That's up to 770 minutes of lowest-quality video, which is more than enough for a standard 26-episode anime TV series. At highest quality, that's just over 110 minutes of video (enough for most movies).
There also exists DVD-10, which is 9.4gb, because it's dual-sided (not dual-layered). I assume that means you have to flip it manually when you run out of video on one side.
There are new formats coming out, like blue laser and UMD, both of which should support higher storage capacity as well as higher-bitrate encodings.
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CrackaJax
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:57 pm
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UMDs should be real interesting. Cowboy Bebop the Movie is on the PSP initial release list. I wonder how the quality will be and how much it can hold.
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theLostProphet
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:00 pm
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Cookie wrote: | There also exists DVD-10, which is 9.4gb, because it's dual-sided (not dual-layered). I assume that means you have to flip it manually when you run out of video on one side. |
I've seen this crappy format before. There's an older version of "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves" in this format. The movie just "stops" about an hour into it, so you have to get up and change this disc around.
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Shiki MSHTS
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:42 am
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theLostProphet wrote: |
Cookie wrote: | There also exists DVD-10, which is 9.4gb, because it's dual-sided (not dual-layered). I assume that means you have to flip it manually when you run out of video on one side. |
I've seen this crappy format before. There's an older version of "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves" in this format. The movie just "stops" about an hour into it, so you have to get up and change this disc around. |
I'm sure someone's heard of it, but is "Spaceballs" also under this format? It shows the same movie on both sides, but one in full screen, and the other on wide.
If so, this isn't very new technolgy. not to mention it's kinda ugly. =P
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Haiseikoh 1973
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:01 am
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theLostProphet wrote: |
Cookie wrote: | There also exists DVD-10, which is 9.4gb, because it's dual-sided (not dual-layered). I assume that means you have to flip it manually when you run out of video on one side. |
I've seen this crappy format before. There's an older version of "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves" in this format. The movie just "stops" about an hour into it, so you have to get up and change this disc around. |
Reboot 4.0 has two complete movies/story arcs on both sides. Daemon Rising and My Two Bobs.
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frostedsaiyan
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:57 pm
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Haiseikoh 1973 wrote: |
theLostProphet wrote: |
Cookie wrote: | There also exists DVD-10, which is 9.4gb, because it's dual-sided (not dual-layered). I assume that means you have to flip it manually when you run out of video on one side. |
I've seen this crappy format before. There's an older version of "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves" in this format. The movie just "stops" about an hour into it, so you have to get up and change this disc around. |
Reboot 4.0 has two complete movies/story arcs on both sides. Daemon Rising and My Two Bobs. |
Its like a cassette tape with better quality. Get done one side and flip it over...
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Sword of Whedon
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:09 pm
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Quote: | No, now DVD's can hold about 8 GB. They won't release them to the public for a while, but the new generations of DVDs can hold 8 GB worth, more or less. |
If by "awhile" you mean "about 7 years ago" then yes
DVD-R Dual Layer just came out a few months back, and they are available, but only in limited quantities.
Quote: | There also exists DVD-10, which is 9.4gb, because it's dual-sided (not dual-layered). I assume that means you have to flip it manually when you run out of video on one side. |
8.4 GB, a slight advantage over the 8.2GB a Dual layer disc holds. "Flippers" were really only used before the dual layer process was perfected, mostly by Warner and Columbia.
Quote: | IANADVDS (I am not a DVD specialist), but IIRC, DVD specs require MPEG2 video to range from ~1.5mbit/s to 10mbit/s.. or about 11mb to 75mb of data per minute. |
The DVD spec mandates no bitrate except for the maximum of 10mbps (in reality 9.4mbps is the highest that's practical to sustain). It does mandate that video must be MPEG 1 or MPEG 2 in certain dimensions though. In reality no one will go under 1.5mbps (basically VCD rate), and most DVDs average between 4 and 6mbps.
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