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HitokiriShadow
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The ADV coverart was revealed before they lost the license. The artwork was the same and the logo was, if not identical, close to it. It was no more impressive than what Bandai used. |
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DFBTG
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What a coincidence, there's a rightstuf ad currently at the top of the page with TTGL plastered all over it. Anyhow, quite the lengthy review, and even though I loved the series (despite getting into it way late because ANN Spring of '07 preview made me think it was utterly retarded...no logic behind that as far as memory goes though), it wasn't without it's flaws and I agree with those pointed out in here. But honestly, I sorta think volume two's cover art should have been volume one's. Though I suppose having Simoun on the first would make more sense...
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Hagaren_Otaku726
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Ah, I'm really not sure if I should opt for these releases, or wait for the version with the dub as well...
Actually, the series looked really fun and over the top to me anyway (They were really hyping it up at Anime Expo, what with Shokotan coming, and everything else Bandai always does), but what really hooked me onto this show was Kamina's belief in Simoun, and his "Believe in me, who believes in you!!" 
I really like the characters that either dote on others, or are very supportive. It's reminiscent of in Eureka Seven's manga adaption, where Eureka decides that she'll believe in Renton, Renton will believe in Nirvash, and Nirvash will believe in Eureka, or something to that effect (Maybe the other way around) |
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Arx7arbalest
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To be completely honest, although I love this series, I was dissapointed with the DVDs. Although I do get a great value at 9 episodes for $20, there are just so many problems with it. The fact that they put two lines of text at a time for the subtitles only blocks more of the picture etc.
The biggest gripe I have with this release is that its not a direct translation, but the exact same script they're using for the dub. I can understand changing the script for the dub, but at least keep the old script for the subtitled version. I probably wouldn't have realized it if it wasn't for the fact that they showcased a lot of the dub script at AX idol this year. The dub script and the subtitles were too similar. If Bandai is to release a subtitle only version, I would hope that they keep the subtitles at a more direct translation. Unfortunately, despite all my whining, I am still going to buy volume 2. Does that make me a (excuse my language) whore?
Yeah... in the DVD release, they edited the script so that it doesn't fit like that. The line they changed it to makes it sound less comedic and more cliche. I think it went on line "Don't believe in yourself. Believe in me, the Kamina that believes in you." It just adds to my many gripes with this release. 
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Roy9076
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I finally watched all of this DVD and content and I am afraid that Bandai is going to get some cheap cash on it by slapping a dub. I would talk about my concern about the dub, but the review explains it well for me. TTGL is a damn show is great if you like mecha and over the top action. I really enjoyed and personally, worth the money to have it played on my upscale DVD player with surround sound. Besides that, I do agree on the review and ended up watching a certain segments twice because the art really gets sloppy. I can tell when Yoko's bust size goes from OL' DAMN! to WHERE'S THE BUST?! Great review!
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Seif
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You really think that Episode 9 looks the worse then 4? Episode 4 was an absolute assault on the eye. It was so bad that it lead to the episode's director being canned.
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Zalis116
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I'm waiting on the dual-language release, not only because that's my collector's instinct, but because I've heard chatter on AoD about issues with this sub-only release, like missing song translations and spelling/grammar errors.
As for the dub speculation, I was also looking forward to ADV's work on the series, especially after seeing the cast list. I do know that scripting work was going on as early as November 2007, but who knows if any lines were ever laid down. The new cast looks just fine, but I do hope that the Bang Zoom that shows up is the freewheeling, over-the-top Bang Zoom of s-CRY-ed and Tenjho Tenge, rather than the technically-good but overly-faithful Bang Zoom of Stellvia and Risky/Safety.
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DFBTG
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Hope I didn't cut anything I didn't want to. Anyway, I didn't say that to be some sarcastic prick implying anything. |
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Big Hed
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*Whew* I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Yoko had considerable depth beyond her cleavage. That's what made her my favorite character from TTGL, although Kamina is definitely memorable as well. Simon fortunately isn't too bad either, once he spoiler[snaps out of his depression post-Kamina's death.]
As for episode 6; yeah it's a tired gimmick, but I forgive it because of all the bunny-girl cameos, and because it's Gurren-Lagann.
I empathize. I was in exactly the same situation when I watched the show.
Yeah, there is definitely some truth to this. But then as Zalis said, introducing the new arc will help build anticipation for volume 2, so I think breaking at either episode works.
I was also looking forward to ADV's dub; the cast was crammed with all of the biggest names in Texas, it seemed. Having said that, if Bang Zoom does pull a similar job to what they did in a show like Tenjo Tenge, I'm sure Bandai's dub will be fine. As Key said, though, the Japanese cast pulls in some great work for TTGL; particularly Katsuyuki Konishi and Marina Inoue, I think. I tend to disagree with the comments on the music, though; the OP is catchy as hell, and I think many of the pieces scattered throughout the show are effectively rousing -- I'm not a fan of the EP, though. Having said that, I suppose the music is TTGL's weakness when you compare it to the other aspects of the production. The art an animation foremost, of course -- with the exception of episode 4, that is...
I second this sentiment. The poor Black siblings didn't exactly get the best introcution they could've had 
Anyway, a great review, and quite thorough I think. I guess that could just be chalked up to me being glad to hear what I wanted to hear, but hey 
I can sort of see what you mean, but Simon definitely makes more sense on the cover of volume 1. However, I do agree that more exciting cover art could have been chosen -- not that the existing is particulary bad. Last edited by Big Hed on Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:25 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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teh*darkness
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I agree with this. In my extremely humble opinion, the shift in art style in episode 09 seemed to fit perfectly with the mood of the entire cast, post-episode 08. Whereas episode 04 was simply an eyesore following the first three episodes, thankfully not to be seen again for the duration of the show. |
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Panon
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In other words, you're complaining that it doesn't match the fan translations, which were very often poor to say the least. I mean, did you ever think that the example of the dub you heard and the subtitle track being similar because the dub is, you know, a pretty faithful one? |
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angel_lover
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Just finished watching it, and I have to agree about episode 9. Did Yoko lose her implants in the big fight, maybe? I can agree to an extent that the change of artistic style matches the change in tone of the episode, but to alter her character design this much is ridiculous. She's like a different person now wearing Yoko's clothes.
As for Bandai's anodyne cover artwork, just select the ANN Gurren Lagann skin to find out how it should have been done. |
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Maidenoftheredhand
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Very nice review but I disagree with some points
Not really the series is 27 episodes and there are 3 sets. I think they just simply divided the episodes and didn't really pay attention to where the plot ended on the disk. 
And the cover art is pretty much the same as the Japanese one which I am really happy they kept. Also I love the music. It was actually my favorite OST from last year. |
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Brack
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Er, no. It was only a guest director spot in the first place. That is Osamu Kobayashi's natural style (as seen in End of The World, Table and Fishman, episode 7 of Kemonozume, as opposed to his subdued style on Beck and Paradise Kiss), and they knew what they were getting. They probably didn't know the reaction they'd get. What it did lead to, was them getting cold feet on doing more guest episodes where directors would be allowed such free reign to bring their own visual imprint to an episode. Ultimately, Gurren Lagann was neither a big enough nor niche enough show to get away with this approach. While both big shows like One Piece and animation nerd satellite broadcast shows like Kaiba can get away with being this free and easy with the notion of "staying on model", they misjudged their own audience and got the negative reaction it did. |
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Key
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For those of you who are commenting about how bad ep 4 was, I must ask: are you basing that on having seen the fansubs, or having seen the DVD? I'd heard so much about the infamous episode 4 that I expected something awful, but the flaws in the DVD version were relatively minor. Episode 9 was much worse on the DVD.
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