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Key
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 Posts: 18466 Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley) |
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With the Best Duo Tournament now on its final round, it's time to start considering what the next forum tournament will be.
Since I have been running the last tournament for the past couple of months, I will organize the next one, too. I've already had one person speak up and offer to help with the support issues (collecting pics, video clips, assembling brackets, etc.) but would welcome 1-2 more. The format for the next one will remain basically the same as for the current one: *Participants chosen by general nomination. *Field of 128 participants formed into a standard bracket. *Top eight will be seeded on the discretion of tournament staff (i.e. me and any assistants). *Voting rounds will be one week long, with 1/4 of bracket (called Groups A-D) covered each week for the first four rounds. *Groups will be combined for the final three rounds. *Tournament is straight single-elimination format based on forumite voting. *As long as you're a registered forum member, you're eligible to vote or nominate. *Voting in earlier rounds is not a prerequisite for voting in later rounds; you can join in at any time. *Screen shots of characters will be offered in early rounds, video clips in later rounds. All that needs to be decided to get the process underway is: what will be the new tournament's theme? I'll take suggestions for 3-4 days and then put it to a vote. Please keep in mind when making suggestions that we've already done Most Moe Character, Craziest Character, Most Evil Character, and Best Duo. Also, the theme must allow for a minimum of 128 representatives and offer at least some potential for discussion and debate over merits; our Best Duo tournament has been a rousing success on that front. Something that's purely a matter of personal taste - like "Cutest Character" - would not be a feasible idea. My recommendation is for a Best Action Hero/Heroine tournament, with the exact definition of "best" left to the discretion of individual voters. To make things more interesting, we could specifically set up the field so that half of the bracket is heroes, the other half is heroines, and the best of each gender meets in the title match. Last edited by Key on Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:19 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Randall Miyashiro
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There seems to be a desire for a best rivals tournament which sprang up from the brainstorming seasons for the duos tournament. I personally think this would be a nice one, but think that we shouldn't follow up a two character team tournament (duos) with another two character tournament (rivals) and should have something else first.
I know there have been a few threads about people posting their favorite mascot characters. Although I could most likely come up with 128 mascots, I hate a good percentage of them. Of course I'm a bit partial to a best mecha/robot tournament. This could be quite interesting, especially if you have characters like Mahoro, Dorothy, Key, and Armitage go up against real robots from Gundam, Macross, etc. and super robots like Giant Robo, Eva, etc. |
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guet
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I like both the hero and mecha ideas, but the problem I see with the former is that it could pretty much just boil down to a popularity contest. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but Naruto vs Sailor Moon seems like an odd final round to me. I could be wrong on this though, as the last tournament proved that popularity does not rule over all at ANN.
As far as a Mecha competition, I think that a majority of non-mecha fans would not want to participate, and it could end up in a massive battle of the Gundam fans Vs Marcross fans. My suggestion would be best anti-hero. You could toss in all the characters who don't always follow the path of "good" to get the job done. Examples would be Guts, Wolfwood, Alucard, Hajime Saito, Vincent Law, Lelouch, L, Brandon Heat, etc. I'm sure there could be 128 contenders there, you could also toss in several females as well. The risk of this turning into a popularity contest is still there, but by taking out the Gokus and the Luffys I think it could be more interesting. Of course that is just my opinion. I agree that a rival tournament would be great, but like Randall, I think two duo tournaments in a row may be a bit much. Whatever is decided I'm glad this is going to continue. The last tournament exposed me to several series I would not have seen, and was also interesting in itself. Next time I'm going to try to get in on things sooner, and hopefully get in on the mini-game as well. |
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zawa113
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I think this might sound a bit of a bizarre contest, but the" most useless anime character" could be interesting. Useless does not necessarily mean annoying here, I for one consider Lynn Minmay to be highly annoying, but since she rallies the troops, I wouldn't quite call her useless. Since its a vote of most useless, it might not fall victim to popularity as much, and every genre seems to have useless characters, so it could cover a wide range of genres and shows as well.
For an example of an actually useless character, I'm going to use Yamcha in DBZ. While he had a role in Dragon Ball, he never contributed much of anything in DBZ and he essentially admitted that he's useless himself during the android saga. While I wouldn't consider Yamcha annoying, I've always considered him to be useless, and as I watch certain series, I notice so many useless other people hanging around with the main characters and I rather wish they weren't so useless. Useless should mean characters who don't do something when they ever so clearly should, random merchants don't count, they need to be named characters with actual speaking lines that other main characters recognize. It would be a tournament of the characters who stand around an either shriek, scream or hug people for no apparant reasons, or the ones who actually attempt to be useful, only to discover that they are indeed worthless and useless characters that for some odd reason the story/author just didn't want to abandon. These are the characters who contribute nothing to the plot, never move the story along, can't contribute in helping the main heroes or villains (or whatever side they're on), or you might just feel that you might like them if only they were so utterly useless! |
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DerekTheRed
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As long as the category can be intelligently debated, you can't go wrong. I'm partial to something like, "Biggest Badass." Then you'd have match ups like "fighting a mecha with just a katana" (Kamina of TTGL) vs. "using your forearm to block bullets in a gunfight" (Henrietta in GSG) I think it would be fun to try to justify which act took more gall.
Other situations that come to mind:
I'd be for the Mecha or Hero suggestion as well. |
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ShadowTrader
 Posts: 231 Location: NJ |
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The reason I didn't participate in the last tournament is that I felt it really didn't accomplish anything. I couldn't really decide based on the criteria, and also I couldn't pick some duos because I have never seen them, so I felt it would be really biased to pick a duo over another without seeing the other.
So my proposal is to have the BEST QUOTE tournament. Basically this tournament will decide the best line ever written in an anime. Its not who is the best writer but what line from any anime is either the most profound, most funniest, most thought provoking, most entertaining, most colorful, or most random line you can think of. There are two problems which I foresee however, one is the biased towards towards funny lines, and the other is that lines sometimes need context to be really thought provoking, so that could mean a lot of explanation behind every line. |
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bonbonsrus
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I like the best mascot/pet thought and I like the mecha/robot idea as well. I couldn't come up with 128 of either however... |
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rainbowcourage
 Posts: 1216 Location: what is commonly known as "hell week" |
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Everyone's giving great suggestions. I like Key's idea, but the very definition of a hero implies someone who is pure and flawless; so unless we combined the best heroes tournament with the best anti-heroes tournament, it doesn't sound too fun. I like the idea of a "Best Fighter" tournament, similar to DerekTheRed's suggestion but without necessary "badass" behavior, since you can hardly qualify some of the tournament's best fighters as badass. Basically, someone who uses their skills wisely, cleverly, and with flair to get the job done.
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Ggultra2764
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I'm up for deciding who the best anime animal could be as there would definitely be enough anime to pick from.
I was also thinking that a best anime robot tourney could be possible. If you are looking for specifications, I mean an anime featuring a humanoid size robot like an android or cyborg who look and/ or act human. Some specific examples would include: -Dorothy from The Big O -Chii from Chobits -Melfina from Outlaw Star -Astro Boy |
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Aylinn
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My proposition is the Best non-humane character. To choose the bast character that is not humane but for example is a duck, wolf, vampire, mazoku, robot, alien, kirin etc. Characters such as Xellos, Ahiru, Keiki, Sesshoumaru would qualify. I would rather see only these characters that are personified, in brief, are able to speak and think so that the choice will not be between Pikachu and the dog from Air.
I'd be for a Best Action Hero/Heroine tournament and best anti-hero. I don't mind if these two will be combined like rainbowcourage suggested. However, I am not interested in the best Mecha tournament. I'm non-mecha fan and I only watched a few series with mecha so if this type of tournament is chosen, I probably won't participate. |
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Key
Moderator
Posts: 18466 Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley) |
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While we'd certainly have enough possible entries to do so, I agree that a "Best Mecha" tournament might not draw in a broad enough cross-section of forumites.
Do be clear that "action" is connected to "hero" in my proposal; I'm not trying to promote choosing a best overall hero, but one specifically regularly involved in action. And if people are going to get hung up on the definition of "hero," just regard it as "best action-oriented figure" instead. |
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Zin5ki
 Posts: 6680 Location: London, UK |
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A best non-human character tournament would be interesting, but due to the variety of potential entrants it'd be good to have a fixed set of criteria (such as how well each character develops etc) to consider when voting. Otherwise I'd just end up voting for characters based upon how much I liked the titles from which they hail, rather than assessing their individual merits.
But then again, it seems that we'll be able to interpret the word 'best' as we so choose, so I hope we'll be allowed a little bit of personal bias. |
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Aylinn
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I agree with you that their individual merits and what the characters add to the story should be taken into consideration. I also would be not be to interested with competition, let me say between a random mazoku from Slayers vs a random yōkai from Inuyasha. I only gave my proposition that, of course if you like, may be further developed. |
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JacobC
ANN Past Staff
 Posts: 3728 Location: SoCal |
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DerektheRed mentioned it first, but to elaborate on the idea, I posted in the middle of the Duo Tournament that I'd had an epiphany for the coolest idea for the next tournament. Now I now it had to be because I'm not the only one pushing it.
First though, Best hero/heroine IS a neat idea, BUT what constitutes a hero/heroine? If it really isn't action or superpower based like you say, Key, (which I agree doesn't constitute "hero" anyway,) you have WAY too wide of a berth. I mean, most evil character wasn't that wide, as most anime don't have someone terribly despicable in them. 99% of anime have a really likable or in some way heroic protagonist. I would consider Tohru from Fruits Basket one of the greatest anime heroines, despite her one-note personality, but many would disagree...it's just too large and too subjective, even though it would be cool. We just have to narrow the qualifications. So, anyway, my idea? Best Anime Badass. As in, a character that is not evil but takes horribly unorthodox practices to the idea of being a hero. It's like guet's anti-hero idea, except that I wouldn't throw characters like L from Death Note into the pot, because while he's a "good guy" with questionable behavior, he's not controversially "down and dirty" enough to be a real anti-hero. So, this is really the anti-hero idea but with only the most HARDCORE anti-heroes that are truly controversial in their methods in order to provoke more interesting conversation. (Spike of Bebop, Wolfwood of Trigun, Alucard of Hellsing, Guts of Berserk, Mugen of Champloo even Yusuke of Yu Yu Hakusho has a bit of a questionable track record. Let's not count out the ladies, though! Faye of Bebop, Sango of Inu-Yasha, Caska of Berserk, Suzuka of Outlaw Star, San of Princess Mononoke, etc.) So, yeah, I back the anti-hero and badass ideas...if there could be a happy medium between them and IF we could include many strong female characters as well as male. |
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guet
Posts: 492 Location: Sparta |
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I really do like Key's idea of having the females on half of the bracket and the males on the other half. There are really plenty of hardcore chicks in anime to fill half a bracket. I addition to the ones mentioned by JesuOtaku Revy, Marlene Angel, Makoto, Mirielle, Seras Victoria, the Claymore cast, and Shiki come to mind just off the top of my head. My only worry is narrowing down the male side to only 64 choices.
So yeah I'm down for the baddass/hardcore/antihero whatever we want to call it thing. |
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