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lhernan02



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:51 am Reply with quote
I am one of those people who think Blood + would have been a great 26 ep show, but at 50 eps it is decent at best (some sections drag on and on like Shonen Jump series).
Does anyone know why it was made at 50 instead of 26? Was it such a hot property that they figured they would milk it for the extra DVD sales (like Chobits (should have been 13 eps, was painful at 27))?
Just wondering, hopefully someone has some authoritative knowledge of the reason.
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ManSlayer07



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:16 pm Reply with quote
lhernan02 wrote:
I am one of those people who think Blood + would have been a great 26 ep show, but at 50 eps it is decent at best (some sections drag on and on like Shonen Jump series).
Does anyone know why it was made at 50 instead of 26? Was it such a hot property that they figured they would milk it for the extra DVD sales (like Chobits (should have been 13 eps, was painful at 27))?
Just wondering, hopefully someone has some authoritative knowledge of the reason.


Blood+ was actually was supposed to be 52 episodes but was eventually reduced to 50 due to its continually sliding ratings. The same thing happened to Ayakashi Ayashi which followed it and it was cut from 52 to 25 episodes. Both show are part of TBS's/MBS's? Saturday 6 PM timeslot, which saw earlier and very successful series like Gundam Seed and Fullmetal Alchemist. There's also the fact that NHK put Major into direct competition by moving it to the same time slot and was/is very successful (it's frequently in the weekly TV anime ratings).

Blood+ is really the franchise, the "hot property," that the earlier Blood: The Last Vampire was planned to be and now includes a light novel series, 3 different manga adaptations (which I believe are all licensed), and various video games. Also the fact that Sony went out of its way to license it for international distribution (there are rumors that the licensing fee was pretty big), took its time to properly give it an English dub, and get it on Adult Swim shows that there's definitely an effort for it to be successful. And finally the upcoming live action Blood: The Last Vampire will also greatly increase its expose (enough for Manga to issue a special edition of the OVA to cash in on it Razz). It's certainly become a franchise of mild success over time.
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Zalis116
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:17 pm Reply with quote
The thing about inside knowledge is, 99% of the people on message boards don't have it, and that 1% (or less) that does have it isn't allowed to talk about it. So there's no use in asking questions that no fellow fan would know the answer to, as dormcat would be glad to tell you.

As for Blood+, I'm not familiar with it, but I'd assume it was made into a 50-episode series because the studio had the funding and the timeslot for it and thought there was enough demand among the viewing public to watch and buy 50 episodes worth of material. Anything beyond that is pure speculation.

But if anyone wishes to discuss Blood+ and why it would've been better at 26 episodes, feel free to do so.
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lhernan02



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:30 pm Reply with quote
Zalis116 wrote:
The thing about inside knowledge is, 99% of the people on message boards don't have it, and that 1% (or less) that does have it isn't allowed to talk about it. So there's no use in asking questions that no fellow fan would know the answer to, as dormcat would be glad to tell you.


I guess inside knowledge was too loaded a term, I was looking for something along the lines of ManSlayer07's response. Unless somebody has more information I guess my question is answered. They thought based on its source material they had a homerun and it turned out to be less than expected. Had they not had as much faith in the franchise, they would have probably made a 26 ep series which would have ended up being better.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:08 pm Reply with quote
Zalis116 wrote:
The thing about inside knowledge is, 99% of the people on message boards don't have it, and that 1% (or less) that does have it isn't allowed to talk about it. So there's no use in asking questions that no fellow fan would know the answer to, as dormcat would be glad to tell you.

As for Blood+, I'm not familiar with it, but I'd assume it was made into a 50-episode series because the studio had the funding and the timeslot for it and thought there was enough demand among the viewing public to watch and buy 50 episodes worth of material. Anything beyond that is pure speculation.

But if anyone wishes to discuss Blood+ and why it would've been better at 26 episodes, feel free to do so.



imo blood+ is great up till about episode 26, what im trying to figure out is why after episode 26 it started falling badly. it felt like the story was dieing almost like a new director was put in, but according to Wiki there was only one director for all 50 episodes.
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sirgalahadthegreat



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:16 am Reply with quote
cool3865 wrote:
imo blood+ is great up till about episode 26, what im trying to figure out is why after episode 26 it started falling badly. it felt like the story was dieing almost like a new director was put in, but according to Wiki there was only one director for all 50 episodes.


I absolutely agree with you on that. I hated seeing Saya the Goo Queen (I refer to her emotional state) and Kai the Incest Boy. I was almost rooting for Diva at the end of it. 50 episodes was too long for such a trifle of a story. They should have used the battle on the Red Shield HQ as a base for Ep.50 ('Nan-kuru-nai-sa') and be done with it. Why the time travel?
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sanosuke32



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:05 pm Reply with quote
I have been saying that 50 episodes is way too much myself. I really like the series, but they were trying to milk as much as they could because of how popular blood the last vampire was. The series could have easily been done in 26, and would have been more enjoyable in my opinion. If you take out all the lame and crappy parts of episodes and sometimes that means the episode itself, you would have 26 episodes. It takes too long to do things sometimes. Since I have been watching it on adultswim, i wait a week for an episode, and i watch it, and nothing happens and i have to wait another week for something to actually happen. I'm not crazy bout the dubbing of the show, but I like Kari Wahlgren and Crispin Freeman, so I put up with it Very Happy Mao honestly seems irrelevant to the story, same with the reporter. I also hate the fact that Diva takes Riku's face, its so annoying and disturbing. The animation is something I don't like about it as well, it seems like an american cartoon or something.

Hmm... It almost seems like I hate the series from that long rant. But all in all, it is a very well put together series, but I just think that its too long and they put too much crap in it.
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blueskygirl



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:55 pm Reply with quote
i just finished watching the series today, and i have to say that 50 eps felt right...in fact, at the end, even though i wanted more, i still thought the ending was perfect. after having seen the show, the idea of it being compressed down to 26 eps is scary...
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Randall Miyashiro



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:22 am Reply with quote
This is pure speculation, but I believe the studio and executive producers set the series length.

Executive producer Hideo Katsumata previously worked on Hell Girl, Jing, Kikaider, all of which spun off sequels. He also was involved as executive producer and planning for the long Fullmetal Alchemist. Almost everything he has worked on ended up being longer than originally planned.

Executive Producer Mitsuhisa Ishikawa on the other hand worked on Blood, Blue Seed, GITS movies and series, Tsubasa, xxxholic, and a bunch of other series that have spun off sequels. He worked on GITS SAC with the person who would eventually be in charge of the series composition for Blood+.

My guess is that these executive producers and the studio decided to make the series a longer series since they have had a high success rate with 26 episode series which come back for a second season. I believe the decision to make it 50 (52?) episodes usually occurs before plots and individual arcs are written since this tends to be part of the business planning stage (hiring directors/writers and acquiring funds) which occurs before the series is mapped out. The lack of material would belong to the series composition and directors who went in knowing that they were working on a longer series instead of the other way around.
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