Forum - View topicNEWS: Italian Police Confiscate 80,000 Pirated Anime DVDs
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ZeroRyoko1974
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Bah, this is nothing. Fansubs are far more damaging to the industry
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LordRobin
Posts: 354 Location: Akron, OH |
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Actually, I think they are. They get distributed a lot faster. But I'm glad they're cracking down on this s***.
------RM |
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Yoda117
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I hate to say this, but I've seen several fandubs being sold by people who were willing to make a profit off of them.
So for the folks who state that fandubs aren't used within the bootlegging circles, they're sadly mistaken. /apologies for fanning the flames |
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CommunistHamster
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However, fansubs generally do not (EDIT: directly) fund criminals. For the most part nobody is making money off fansubs.
Down with serious pirates like these guys. 80,000 DVDs is worth... what? Assuming they'd be sold cheaply (£8 per disc), that's £640000 in total. If they were passed off as the real deal... much more. Who knows what kind of unsavoury characters the guy had contacts with. it might have been funding organised crime. EDIT: I didn't think of genuine pirates using fansub scripts to make pirate DVDs. That's a new angle, although I guess everything can be abused. |
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beelzebozo
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In my experience, pirated DVDs are more damaging than fansubs. To get fansubs, you actually have to go looking for them and figure out how to download them. You'd be amazed at the amount of people I've run into that can't figure this out.
With pirated DVDs (& CDs & Wallscrolls), all you have to do is set up shop and tell people "Oh, these are imports" and unsuspecting people will buy them, no mess, no fuss. Then they get this mistaken notion that legit dealers are trying to rip them off and that Japanese (or Chinese R3s) versions are actually cheaper than American. Meanwhile, it siphons money, from people who are actually willing to put down money for their anime, away from legitimate releases and in the pockets of criminals, who never paid for their stolen goods in the first place. |
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Xanas
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In your opinion. You cannot substantiate this statement or declare it to be fact. |
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calawain
Posts: 192 Location: New York, NY |
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Without getting into a fansub debate, bootlegs and pirated DVDs are pretty bad, glad to see more cracking down.
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Dargonxtc
 Posts: 4463 Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋 |
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First this, and now this!
I gotta say it again. Go Nagai, Go Nagai, Go Nagai Go Go! Don't mess with him. He's a bad mutha. Also where do you see anything about fansubs here, why was it even brought up. This is a different animal. This is a clear cut bootlegger crack down anyway you slice it. Bootleggers are particularly duplicitous because they take money away from people who would otherwise want to support the industry. Or in simpler terms, they are literally taking money out beneath the bottom line of legitimate companies. Also this may just be a drop in a bucket to all you pirate lovers out there. But you will never fill a pail unless you at least put it under the leak. And it is good to know that 3 manufacturing plants and 80,000 discs are off the inter-streets. |
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jsevakis
Former ANN Editor in Chief
 Posts: 1685 Location: Los Angeles, CA |
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Sure can. In fact, I was shocked to find my old Kodocha fansubs used on the Kodocha HK bootleg box. (Amusingly, after the last fansubbed episode, the translation quality dropped off into complete nonsense.) Happens all the time. I'm glad there's finally a crackdown underway, though Italy I'm sure is nothing compared to the piracy coming out of Asia. It's almost impossible NOT to get ripped off once in a while on eBay or half.com. |
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Xanas
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I love pirates and I are one "arr" lol, but that doesn't mean I like bootlegs or sales of stuff, for the same reasons you are against it. I know from polls/etc. in other communities that most pirates are also against selling this stuff especially when it's passed off as the real thing.
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Yoda117
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Not that new, as I'd first seen them in the summer of 1992. It's just that it seems to have become more widespread as of late. |
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kokuryu
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Dont rip off legally available DVDs - just buy the originals.... you can get a bargain if you dont want to pay the full boat price if you shop around!
I guess the smell of money makes them do it... under 25 cents a DVD to press them youself, less than a buck to make them - all the rest is profit for them - until they are caught! |
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ikillchicken
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Agreed. That is your oppinion. Also, I dont think you can just brush off Bootlegs as nothing. If you are, you really ought to do some research. Are they worse than fanusubs? Who knows. However, keep in mind, many people who see fansubs may not have bought the real version anyway. Everyone who buys a bootleg is someone willing to spend money. Often its even as much money as the real release because they think they are getting the real release. I'm very glad to see them cracking down on Bootlegs. I have zero respect for bootleggers. They're just leeching off somebody elses work to make money for themself. |
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ZaWarudo
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I don't really see fansubs and bootlegs as comparable. Most fansubbers do it for love of the medium(or for E-cred
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Porcupine
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I think this is good news. But more than that, I'm surprised that Hong Kong isn't the only place that pirated DVDs come from.
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