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tintor2
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Is this supposed to be an adaptation of Symphony of the Night or are they mixed?
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Beatdigga
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It’s whatever the writers think is important. They have long since given up the proverbial ghost on being a Castlevania adaptation. And on that note, fool me once, shame on them for not having anything to really do with Castlevania, fool me twice, shame on me for watching it. |
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NeverConvex
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I've never been very impressed with Netflix's Castlevania adaptations, but I enjoyed Nocturne a fair bit more than the original. I don't really care whether it adheres to canon (not having played any of the CV games anyway); I'll probably give this a shot.
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Wizardizar
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I never got that argument. Like what do you want? The story of Castlevania games is paper thin. Like stylistically it's a good base but you have to write more stuff for it to make an actual adaptation in another medium. If not then what? 8 episodes of a dude making his way through a castle with maybe 2-3 scenes of him saving some ladies in a cage. If you wanna say you don't like the writing of the adaptation, that's one thing, but to criticize for not being faithful enough story-wise to a platformer from ~25 years ago is, in my opinion, a bit silly. It's not like Konami is doing anything with the franchise. Let people adapt things, reinterpret them, give them a different spin. Doesn't remove anything from the old media. |
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MyMasterMatthew
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I can totally understand why longtime fans might be disappointed by the loose (if I'm being generous) adaptation - if they were to similarly "adapt" the Soma Cruz era (my gateway into Castlevania), I'd be upset too - but I've still managed to enjoy the Castlevania and Nocturne shows. It's one of the rare cases where, somehow, an adaptation that doesn't seem to care about following the source material too closely managed to find an audience all the same. While I hope to someday watch an animated adaptation that follows the lore closely (keeping in mind that artistic liberties would still need to be taken, as the earlier games didn't focus as much on story), I'm okay with this for now. But, again, I understand the frustration. |
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Beatdigga
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Dracula would be nice. And I know Konami isn’t doing anything with the franchise outside of re-release compilations and a surprisingly decent remake of Haunted Castle that makes the game fun, but I stand by the feeling that Demon Slayer’s more recent seasons feel like Castlevania than the Castlevania show does. And at that point, why are we here? I do maintain the setup here if it was moved 100 years forward in the future, and dropped the corrupt church plot this show likes to beat like an exhausted drum, that we could have had a very fun adaptation of Castlevania Bloodlines that could also really go deep into the plot thread that the cowboy from Bram Stoker’s Dracula was a relative of the Belmonts and the chaos the vampires would cause during World War I. But I’m not allowed to have nice things. |
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juaifan
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If people like this interpretation of Castlevania then that's fine but we can also not pretend like this wasn't just a case of writers wanting to do their own thing and were stuck with an existing IP to use as a vehicle for it. You could make the argument for the original series being a very loose adaption but Nocturne was virtually unrecognizable outside the names. I don't think they completely changed the characters and stories in Castlevania because of lack of material but because they just wanted to. If you want to do something different with Castllevania then that's one thing and Castlevania fans already had to deal with the God of Vania era of video games already but I'll never buy that the changes were made due to 'lack of material' since even characters and stories that had a ton of material were still ignored. Mario didn't have a ton of material back in the 90s either but there was a pretty big difference between the live-action movie that thought the Mushroom Kingdom was a dystopian New York City and Goombas were big gangsters with tiny heads and the Super Show that relatively remained faithful even if Mario and Bowser were parodying a specific movie for that episode. |
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FanGamer24
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Honestly the TV series is far more interesting than what you might get from a straight adaptation of the old games. Not sure what exactly is missing that you might want outside of just having Dracula stick around like a Saturday morning cartoon villain.
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AiddonValentine
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Having Dracula as a resurrecting villain works in video games due to how they're experienced, not so much with literally any other medium. And it's not like Dracula is the only villain in Castlevania anyway so I always found that criticism to be silly.
Anyway, cool to see Juste in his trademark red coat (and maybe getting his magic back?) and Alucard deciding to start the revolution if just to kill a lot of vampires. Good times |
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Bertram
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I don't think a franchise being dead mean fans can't be upset at seeing it's corpse being desecrated. I used to have a similar attitude of different adaptions don't affect the original so I could just ignore them but we've started seeing that actually happen with things like Sonic where the live-action films are now retroactively affecting the games. Would be a shame if Castlevania got a new game only for it to be based on the Netflix cartoon. Hopefully the franchise stays dead. |
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MFrontier
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Well, Alucard looks straight out of Symphony of the Night art so there is that.
I just hope Richter isn't lost in the shuffle. |
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Heishi
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Hard disagree, right there. Would love to see another entry in the series. I want more Simon Belmont hijinxs that isn't yet another remake. Speaking of which, when are they gonna do an adaption with good ol' Simon as the MC? Been yearning for one ever since I saw Captain N completely butcher his character worse than Dracula and his minions ever could. |
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Wizardizar
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Using the series as a base to build a story tackling the french revolution and slavery is a lot more respectful to the franchise and shows a lot more love than a pachinko machine, so the criticisms seem misplaced. There is no desecration. The old texts still exist. This is just new stuff. Which brings us to point two.
As far as I know the only real way the Sonic movies affected the games was the newest Generations game with Shadow in it? Maybe adding Longclaw as a character in some mobile game? Either way, Generation's been very well received. Sonic was kissing human girls long before the movies even began production. And if a fictitious new Castlevania game is good then who cares? It would have to stand on its own merit; gameplay, story, etc... If people want to criticize the story they should just do that instead of bringing in vague notions of sanctity and respect. |
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Chris Handsome
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Just give it a monster of the week format and feature one of the iconic bosses for each episode leading up the final showdown with Dracula, with plenty of adventure and comedic hijinks in between, like The Slayers. Rondo Of Blood certainly invoked some of that 90's anime style to it, which is alot more eye catching and pleasing than what Netflix is going for with it's shiny saturated blurry colors and effects and crappy looking 3D. |
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faboo95
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Also I'm sure we all know of or have an anime adaptation that we hate because of how it was executed poorly, things Promised Neverland, Berserk, or Uzumaki come to mind. Yes the manga will always be there, but I'm sure we all can relate and understand why we complain about a wasted attempt of an adaptation. Kinda related, but I absolutely hate the "If you hate it just ignore it, it's not hurting you" type of attitude. The continual release of poorly planned and written shows/films is exactly what is killing things like the Star Wars and the MCU franchise, to the point that more and more people have just stopped complaining due to apathy. And this has a domino effect where future projects which people actually want to see may never happen as a result of "lack of interest". |
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