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ZelosZoidberg
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Remember Anime Turnpike? That was my gateway to a lot of stuff. It's also how I an 11 year old at the time um *ahem* discovered Ero anime by accident... I was just looking for Tenchi Muyo pictures and gifs! I didn't know what a lemonade stand was!
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The_Daytona_500
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Feels weird seeing ANN push Bluesky so much, haven't seen it mentioned on literally any other site nor have I ever met someone with an account.
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Shay Guy
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PSA: If you ever have cause to look at Fandom on a mobile device, I strongly recommend doing it through BreezeWiki. Just one change to the URL and it's actually usable, with reasonable power usage.
There's still a lot of the old independent, self-hosted MediaWiki sites out there too, from before the site then known as Wikia took over the fanwiki sphere. The Homestar Runner Wiki loads slowly, but it's still there. A Wiki of Ice and Fire works fine. EvaWiki on the EvaGeeks site, WikiMoon, Tolkien Gateway. Lexicanum for the 40k fans out there. RationalWiki, if we wanna expand outside fandom stuff. |
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MagicConan14
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Thing is, as much as I'd like to move on from X (I did ragequit the site at one point, but came back reluctantly after you couldn't use the site without an account anymore), fans and official anime outlets on the Japanese side refuse to move from the platform...(To be fair, my love of translation was born after translating Japanese tweets and posting them to Tumblr, so I admit there is an element of nostalgia for me there too.)
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quoss
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That Utena fansite is phenomenal! Also glad to hear that more people are leaving twitter; took long enough. I really judge people who spend a lot of time on SNS... I suppose as this back-and-forth says, it's the name of the game these days but it'll generally always be right to choose other than the mainstream and do something else especially when the mainstream is proven to be so harmful and, well, trash (Ads, misinformation, hostile algorithms, poor archiving, hostile communities, designed to scroll through it and suffer forever. Delete your account!)
edit: Ima share a personal anecdote loaded with anti-SNS agenda in theoretical response to the difficulty of leaving an SNS because of wanting to keep up with others who are on it. I've been a fan of a particular artist for thirteen years and for eight of those, spent almost everyday consuming every bit of their content/following their work to include the dullest fancams of them walking behind some pillars. When they joined instagram, it felt like a death toll to me (Who even then had a low (See: Accurate) opinion of SNS. This didn't mean more personalized content or a way to interact with them closely, it only meant a new outlet for ads, the most unimaginative and low-effort support comments imaginable, and diminishing news content about them from other, better sources as fans flocked to this easier and worse one. Yes we got selfies but what worth are selfies? As this artist began reposting their own promotions for their own work as well as their promoting other brands (Modeling, etc,) their feed became like 70% ads and 30% selfies and gee who could've seen this coming. literally anybody. In my opinion, as a diehard fan, there's no one alive who's interesting enough to warrant a personal Insta of their face/ads. SNS isn't made for in-depth sharing and discussion and certainly not even for posting news; it's too terse, the expectation in quality of engagements is way too low, and the navigation for discussion/saving/learning is nonexistent or abysmal: SNS is for eternal scrolling and nothing else. These days, years later from when that artist first joined that app, the news sites specified for them have all but shut down and they certainly don't post news anymore. I'd still like to see this artist perform, never have. Every six months or so, I'll begrudgingly pull up Insta on desktop (You too, can boycott downloading it.) to check in and I learn this artist has had tours in my country that I had no idea about because it's not advertised anywhere but SNS, at least not outside of their country. The only way to know where they go is to enter the scroll or brave tabloids. I'm still their fan. It totally hurts to miss them. But giving in and using SNS isn't the answer. We should make the correct choice. I haven't eaten a Kit-Kat in years either and I've stopped buying chips because they're $6 a bag. Yes, this is about principles and boycotts and not using something you know sucks just because you miss it. That this artist continues to use SNS is disappointing and soothes the hurt of missing them. If you've managed to have SNS feeds that aren't detrimental to you, that's awesome. For everybody else knowingly doing something negative, get a grip, do better, leave. These things are issues and popular because people use them so stop using them. "My leaving won't affect it." Yes, fool, it will, just like voting matters. And really, even if you lose what you voted for, if change doesn't come for the whole, at least your integrity is intact because you made the right move and can continue to do so. "this isn't that serious." For the kids stuck on these apps, I think it might be. Anyhoo i said SNS a lot like all of it, but I do mean some of it. If Bluesky is looking nice, then yay. Just there's no pretense that a ton of SNS, like the photo one i yammered about, are awful places when they're so saturated. |
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darkchibi07
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Yeah, the fact most of the official Japanese companies haven't moved on from the Twitter/X platform makes it a little difficult for most fans following them to leave as well. This is especially true for corporate-owned VTubers like Hololive. But then again this could be an opportunity for fans to convince them there is an audience that engage with their stuff in alternate places like BlueSky. |
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i got the shivers!
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If Japan was going to migrate anywhere it would be Misskey, a Japanese platform that I've noticed getting more popular especially with artists who are tired of western platform restrictions and people criticizing and hindering their artwork. But Misskey is currently not open to registration to anyone without a Japanese IP. Presumably that's the reason it's so appealing to Japan as of late given recent harassment and controversies Japanese artists have faced from western critics. The one a few weeks ago targeting Bkub was especially nasty. The only time I heard of Bluesky was a few Japanese artists immediately getting banned there for sexualizing minors when posting art of girls in school uniforms. It seems Bluesky is even more restrictive than X when it comes to art. No idea what their porn stance is. I don't have any interest in it myself since I barely post on X as is and mostly just browse. I prefer more personal communities like Discord to discuss things than social media, but it's useful for following Japanese news, artists, and stuff. |
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GoGoGoFalco
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I feel like Bluesky is for a very specific group of people. People with very left-wing politics who dislike Elon Musk and make those factors a unifying point of their personality. Maybe it's just due to recent events but people seem to be a lot more mask off there due to being surrounded by like-minded company. It doesn't seem particularly inviting or interesting to me. If you just want to discuss anime or anything else it seems like X is still the best place since it's more popular and has a wider variety of opinions and voices; especially if you want to interact with official Japanese companies and seiyuu. |
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BadNewsBlues
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Even without being left wing current Twitter under Elon is terrible let’s not pretend otherwise. |
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Lder1995
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Heyo! This is Lucas from this TWIA chat chiming in to address a couple of points that have come up in this comment section.
1) While I've personally found a lot of fulfillment in virtual communities over the course of my life, I acknowledge that the mechanics of specific spaces make them less appealing to specific people. If you don't think you'd like being on Bluesky, don't join it; and I think it's cool if a person knows themselves well enough to recognize that. 2) There's A LOT of spicy content on Bluesky. With the introduction of DMs a few months back, adult content creators of all stripes have started crossposting. Furthermore, among the adult content creators I talk to, there's a growing concern about Twitter suppressing adult content and Elon Musk surfacing the information of adult content creators to the US government if efforts to criminalize pornography and the people who make it succeed. 3) Japanese users are one of Bluesky's fastest growing demos! https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/bluesky-gains-momentum-wake-xs-blocking-changes/730371/ I'll admit that corporate accounts are few and far between on the platform, but I personally think that's to its benefit. There's no perfect replacement for Twitter right now, but Bluesky so far seems like the beginnings of the best future alternative. 4) Bluesky does not algorithmically surface content unless you follow specific feeds that focus on specific topics; like posts that come from specific regions, what's popular among the people you follow, or key terms/tags. If you're only seeing posts that seem to feed into specific ideologies, that's because you're only following folks who share that ideological bent. 5) The anime user base on Bluesky regularly does "Weeb Wednesday" in which users are encouraged to share their hot takes on anime and anime adjacent media. It's a lot of fun and, while Bsky isn't as widespread as Twitter, I guarantee if you put the time and work in, you'll have more of a sense of community and make more genuine connections on Bsky than you will on the current version of Twitter. I'm not advocating for folks to delete their Twitter accounts as the platform still has a lot of utility. However, the infrastructure of Twitter is clearly crumbling, was banned in Brazil specifically for being a vehicle for mass disinformation, and is rapidly inundated with ads of a growingly dubious quality. If you care about the caliber of news and opinions you receive and value making connections over consuming content, I promise that you're going to have a more fun time on Bluesky. |
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Tenchi
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I made a Bsky account to follow a few Vtubers and apparently now anime Youtuber Kenny Lauderdale but I don't really have any intention of leaving Twitter or posting anything other than replies on Bsky.
The only thing that might make me switch would be if Twitter started charging a fee for posting photos, which I could possibly see them doing but I don't want to give Elon any ideas. |
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nyaa
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I don't use social media but I might just check out Bluesky
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Key
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I only use X when posts are recommended to me, and Instagram only to follow one specific person, because I tend to focus much more on news site response threads. If using Bluesky requires a fair amount of effort to get much out of it then I can't see myself getting much into that. Spending hours a day perusing social media just isn't my thing.
As far as anime social media history is concerned, CompSserve forums did have somewhat of an anime community going through the late '90s and early 2000s. Sadly, that all evaporated as the 2000s wore on and the service eventually shut down. |
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Vanadise
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I think it's worth noting that you don't need to sign up on Misskey.io, because it's part of the Fediverse and you can follow users on misskey.io from most* other Mastodon/Misskey/et. al. servers. There are a lot of English, anime-oriented fedi instances, like kitsunes.club or sakurajima.social, that can interact with Misskey with no problems. I'm glad that the anitwitter crowd seems like it's congregating on Bluesky, but it's a little frustrating when I've been hearing people say "Mastodon is too complicated!" as a justification for not moving there for years, when Bluesky is not really any less complicated that Mastodon. But, at least people are finally leaving Twitter. (*it's worth noting that some servers block interactions with misskey.io because they allow loli/shota art, such as mastodon.art, which is one of the larger Mastodon servers -- so that is worth checking on if you want to sign up somewhere else with the explicit goal of following misskey.io users) |
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Flash33
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Regarding Bluesky, eh, as much as Elon's adjustments of Twitter aren't great and seem like a case of "throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks" I'm not fully convinced another SM site could topple it. I'm reminded of the Mass Twitch Exodus a few years ago where people moved from Twitch to other video streaming sites and as far as I know none of them lasted very long and people just inevitably moved back to Twitch. Sure it's lasted almost a year at this point, but if I'm not mistaken other sites launched to combat Twitch only lasted about a year or so before people swapped back and they shut down. Not saying this can't last longer than they did, just that I'm not convinced yet that it will, but hey, they could always prove me wrong.
As for Fandom, many sites such as the Hearthstone wiki and Wowpedia have migrated to new sites out of Fandom's umbrella because of apparently the poor leadership and pay under them. The old sites are still available as of this posting, they just aren't updated anymore and often have links to the new versions of them to encourage readers to go there for more new updates. A shame what happened to the creators under Fandom, but from what I've seen most at least seem grateful for the work they could do while under them while still disapproving of their actions. Last edited by Flash33 on Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:51 am; edited 1 time in total |
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