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Farafra
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:25 pm
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I wonder what it's about
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TsukasaElkKite
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:00 pm
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YES! I was hoping for this!
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Thesarum
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:13 am
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Late 20th century "Dad Rock" is pretty much my music. This series is one of my favourite things. It's great that it's finally getting an official English release. Not everyone gets on with the 4 page vignette chapters, but it works for me.
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MFrontier
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:16 am
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That's cool to hear!
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ChirashiD
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:56 pm
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It's nice there seems to be a recent uptick in popularity of gender non-conforming characters. I'm just curious about something. I think the whole "transmen are men / transwomen are women" campaign is having a positive effect of increasing trans-visibility. But honestly, when you have a title like "The Guy She Was Interested In Wasn't a Guy at All" isn't that kind of a slap in the face to any transgender and trans-ally readers?
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Akcoll99
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:48 pm
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Thesarum wrote: | Late 20th century |
And I now immediately feel ancient...
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WoodDude
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:15 pm
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ChirashiD wrote: | It's nice there seems to be a recent uptick in popularity of gender non-conforming characters. I'm just curious about something. I think the whole "transmen are men / transwomen are women" campaign is having a positive effect of increasing trans-visibility. But honestly, when you have a title like "The Guy She Was Interested In Wasn't a Guy at All" isn't that kind of a slap in the face to any transgender and trans-ally readers? |
? This series has nothing to do with the transgender movement. It's just a cute yuri series.
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Thesarum
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:53 pm
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Akcoll99 wrote: |
Thesarum wrote: | Late 20th century |
And I now immediately feel ancient... |
As a bona-fide child of the 80s, I sympathise.
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milkyy
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:57 pm
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ChirashiD wrote: | It's nice there seems to be a recent uptick in popularity of gender non-conforming characters. I'm just curious about something. I think the whole "transmen are men / transwomen are women" campaign is having a positive effect of increasing trans-visibility. But honestly, when you have a title like "The Guy She Was Interested In Wasn't a Guy at All" isn't that kind of a slap in the face to any transgender and trans-ally readers? |
Women who are boyish/tomboys/tough girls/gnc (gender non-conforming) females are not trans. ♡
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One-Eye
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:52 pm
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This is great, its really a sweet series. When I first came across it I wasn't sure the short format would be for me, but it certainly won me over. Glad to see it being picked up.
ChirashiD wrote: | It's nice there seems to be a recent uptick in popularity of gender non-conforming characters. I'm just curious about something. I think the whole "transmen are men / transwomen are women" campaign is having a positive effect of increasing trans-visibility. But honestly, when you have a title like "The Guy She Was Interested In Wasn't a Guy at All" isn't that kind of a slap in the face to any transgender and trans-ally readers? |
Uh, no. I think you may be going a little far. One character had a face mask and hoodie on and the other character mistook her for a hot guy. The relationship then grows from there. No slapping in the face of transgenders involved. The series is mostly shoujo-ai and hasn't gone full on yuri yet (as of the last time I read).
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InfiniteNothingness
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:02 pm
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ChirashiD wrote: | It's nice there seems to be a recent uptick in popularity of gender non-conforming characters. I'm just curious about something. I think the whole "transmen are men / transwomen are women" campaign is having a positive effect of increasing trans-visibility. But honestly, when you have a title like "The Guy She Was Interested In Wasn't a Guy at All" isn't that kind of a slap in the face to any transgender and trans-ally readers? |
No, it's not anything more complicated than as it sounds: A misunderstanding leading to the girl realizing the guy she's interested in, is a girl she's interested in. Nothing in how Mitsuki dresses -- she wears unisex clothing and has a particular style that lends to a handsome boy type beat, on top of her work wear obscuring much of her features -- nor how Aya is interested in her uses trans struggles as a punchline.
Secondarily, I personally would not include allies alongside there. Starkly different lived experiences, those.
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ShugoYotsuba
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:16 am
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ChirashiD wrote: | It's nice there seems to be a recent uptick in popularity of gender non-conforming characters. I'm just curious about something. I think the whole "transmen are men / transwomen are women" campaign is having a positive effect of increasing trans-visibility. But honestly, when you have a title like "The Guy She Was Interested In Wasn't a Guy at All" isn't that kind of a slap in the face to any transgender and trans-ally readers? |
This has nothing to do with the transgender movement, this is just a cute yuri manga
Also, gender non-conforming characters have been popular in Japanese media since the 70's, this ain't a new phenomenon
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Dayraven
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:29 am
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Quote: | But honestly, when you have a title like "The Guy She Was Interested In Wasn't a Guy at All" isn't that kind of a slap in the face to any transgender and trans-ally readers? |
While the title translation is otherwise quite direct, the Japanese uses ‘hito’ (person) for the first ‘guy’ and ‘otoko’ (man) for the second, so it reads a little differently.
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kgw
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:18 am
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The original author gave the English title (just look at the cover). And, in any case, a more literal "The person she was interested in wasn't a man at all" doesn't sound natural.
I really think it's a funny story based on the old idea of a "tomboyish" girl being a "prince" for her schoolmates.
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Konopan
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:36 am
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ChirashiD wrote: | Isn't that kind of a slap in the face to any transgender and trans-ally readers? |
There's an entire spectrum of masculine expression in lesbian culture alone, not even getting to the actual concept of the gender spectrum.
It's kind of strange to assume a title conveying a misconception would be seen as a targeted jab at transmen in particular, unless your only attachment to this kind of media is stoking reactionary flames on social media.
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